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To anyone who recently dined at the Panda Garden in Edmonton...


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#1 of 19 OFFLINE   Francois Caron

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Posted November 05 2003 - 05:07 AM

Probably the worst restaurant health violation I've ever read...

Canine carcasses discovered in restaurant

#2 of 19 OFFLINE   ThomasC

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Posted November 05 2003 - 07:08 AM

What is it about Chinese restaurants and health violations?

#3 of 19 OFFLINE   Geno

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Posted November 05 2003 - 07:18 AM

Thats why I dont eat at Chinese restaurants! *************

#4 of 19 OFFLINE   Josh Lowe

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Posted November 05 2003 - 08:00 AM

Isn't dog commonly eaten in china? Perhaps it was for the employees.

Can we also please cut the anti-Chinese xenophobia before it starts?

#5 of 19 OFFLINE   Keith Mickunas

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Posted November 05 2003 - 08:09 AM

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Isn't dog commonly eaten in china? Perhaps it was for the employees.

Is that a chance you're willing to take? I'm not. But then I don't like Asian food in general so I avoid those places. Still, I hope these people will be shut down and owners and management punished severely. There's a chance some of that was fed to customers, and that can't be allowed, regardless of whether it's ok in China or not.

#6 of 19 OFFLINE   Max Leung

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Posted November 05 2003 - 09:29 AM

Define Asian food...you have to realize that three quarters of the world's population can be considered "Asian" in the geographic sense. Asia, geographically, is a mind-bogglingly huge region of the planet. The variety of food and its preparation in Asia is quite staggering.

Asia != (not equals) China, which is only a small portion of Asia.

To avoid Asian foods you'd have to avoid rice, milk, chicken, tea, beef, apples, pasta, bread, and the list goes on and on.

I personally don't know anyone who has eaten dog. It's rare in most of China, as far as I know. Although you will see the occasional picture on the news or in a magazine now and then. Heck, I even saw a movie made in Shanghai, by a Chinese director, about a family that go through a lot of trouble to rescue their unlicensed dog from a dog pound. No mention of dog eating anywhere.

As for the incident in question...definitely a bad thing. They broke the law. Pure and simple. If the law forbade chicken, then it'd still be just as bad.
Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

Gamesh....

#7 of 19 OFFLINE   Keith Mickunas

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Posted November 05 2003 - 09:41 AM

Well Max, while I will eat ingredients common to some types of Asian food, such as rice, I will not eat meals prepared in the style of Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, Indian, Pakastani, or Persian food, and so on. Then again, I did say "Asian food in general", there's nothing I really have to define about that, any reasonable person would understand what I meant. If you ask me to join you for a meal that has it's origins in an Asian country, I will likely say no. The only exception is I love Japanese Steak Houses, but then I focus on the steak, and don't eat much of the other stuff.

By the way, China has about 1.2 billion people, the world has around 6 billion people, so China makes up about 1/6th of the world's population, which is signficant in itself, but it's even more significant when compared to Asia alone, so China makes up more than a small part of Asia.

#8 of 19 OFFLINE   Max Leung

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Posted November 05 2003 - 09:57 AM

I assumed when you said "Asian food" you meant Chinese food, so corrected you accordingly. People tend to equate Asian food with Chinese food. Thankfully you're not one of them. Posted Image

Strangely enough, I find some Hungarian and German dishes to be similiar to Thai and Vietnamese dishes. Maybe you should give Thai and Vietnamese food another try? Or avoid Hungarian and German food instead. Posted Image Of course, Thailand and Vietnam have been heavily influenced by the French and the British, for obvious reasons...
Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him...a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

Gamesh....

#9 of 19 OFFLINE   MikeH1

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Posted November 05 2003 - 10:21 AM

All I can say is I'm VERY thankful I have never ate there.

#10 of 19 OFFLINE   Bejoy

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Posted November 05 2003 - 10:55 AM

Well, let me see if I remember my geography.

Asia means the continent, and it has 44 countries as of now and most of Russia (east of Ural mountains or 60oE)

Here is a list of countries : Afghanistan, Armenia , Azerbaijan , Bahrain , Bangladesh , Bhutan , ,Brunei , Burma (Myanmar) , Cambodia , China , Cyprus , East Timor , India , Indonesia , Iran , Iraq, Israel , Japan , Jordan , Kazakhstan , Kuwait , Kyrgyzstan , Laos , Lebanon , Malaysia , Maldives ,Mongolia , Nepal , North Korea , Oman , Pakistan , Philippines , Russian Fed. , Qatar , Saudi Arabia ,Singapore , Syria , South Korea , Sri Lanka , Taiwan , Tajikistan , Thailand , Turkey , Turkmenistan ,U.A.E. , Uzbekistan , Vietnam , Yemen

Now population wise
China 1,286,975,468 (July 2003 est.)
India 1,049,700,118 (July 2003 est.)
Estimated total population of Asia 3.7 Billion.

So you see there is no Asian cuisine. What people eat in Israel is not what they eat in Laos. Can you call Chinese cuisine as Asian cuisine?

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#11 of 19 OFFLINE   Keith Mickunas

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Posted November 05 2003 - 11:02 AM

The term Asian cuisine could imply all food that originates in Asia, so Chinese cuisine being a food that originates in China, part of Asia, is in fact Asian cuisine. Now considering 33% of Asia is Chinese, and only India comes close to that, it's not a gross error to consider Asian food and Chinese food to be the same. No other single group aside from India would come close to that.

Also, I've had some Israeli food and other Middle Eastern food, as well as Mongolian, and I didn't like it. Russian is about the only thing on that list that I haven't tried, or at least had something close to. So when I say I don't like Asian food, I mean it.

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Posted November 05 2003 - 11:12 AM

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So when I say I don't like Asian food, I mean it.

Have you tried it on a boat?
have you tried to with a goat?
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Posted November 05 2003 - 03:28 PM

Waiter! Excuse me, Waiter, I said noodles.....not poodle!
"You bring a horse for me?" "Looks like......looks like we're shy of one horse." "No.......You brought two too many."

#14 of 19 OFFLINE   Mark Dubbelboer

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Posted November 06 2003 - 03:05 AM

oh edwin, that's horrible.

I saw this on the news last night, made me think of all the urban-legends regarding chinese food restaurants...sad that at least one of them is true.

#15 of 19 OFFLINE   MikeH1

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Posted December 23 2003 - 09:52 PM

Well we can all breathe a big sigh of relief. It wasn't a dog found in the freezer, it was a coyote.

No charges will be laid.

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#16 of 19 OFFLINE   Philip_G

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Posted December 23 2003 - 10:14 PM

Mmm canadian cuisine then?

#17 of 19 OFFLINE   John Thomas

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Posted December 24 2003 - 12:58 AM

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It wasn't a dog found in the freezer, it was a coyote.


Oh! Well then..nevermind.

#18 of 19 OFFLINE   Dave Poehlman

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Posted December 24 2003 - 04:25 AM

That's interesting... there's a Mexican restaraunt not too far from my house that got busted for the same thing a few years ago (except they were dogs in the freezer.. not coyotes).

What I don't understand is... the place is STILL OPEN! I drive by it all the time and wonder how anyone can still go there.

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Posted December 25 2003 - 04:13 AM

Max, people in China most certainly do eat dog. Its actually on the menu of quite a few restaurants. The high end hotel I was staying at in Guangzhou had it on there menu in its own little section. You know how the menues show beef, seafood, chicken, etc. Well, one section was for varied ways to prepare dog.

Needless to say, we didn't order any but did order a heck of a good Peking duck. Mmmm..

BTW, the thought of eating Chinese food in Edmonton freaks me out enough. Posted Image

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