Posted November 07 2003 - 04:48 PM
I dunno, I think Nintendo have done the right
thing here for a change - they've given existing owners methods to getting hold of this disc, associating it with their key in-house games for this Christmas (and has been said many times, it's Nintendo's own games that make up the majority of software sales for the machine), and giving them an alternative mehtod through the Nintendo Power subscription.
I was expecting them to NOT offer either scheme & stick with it being a pure bundle offer. In different times, that's what they would have done...
If people genuinely feel they're being screwed over by pricedrops & bundles, well, there's really no great time to ever buy a console, is there? Early adopters are always going to pay a premium for getting the latest & greatest hardware, and prices are always going to drop to increase sales/market share as costs get cut & marketing gets desperate
It's a fact of life in this market, and it's not going to change - it's not just consoles, look at the reduction in cost of HDTVs for example.
| But what if you were a person who bought it a month before the first price drop, or the first promotion with free games? You'd feel very upset. |
Again, if you're constantly worried about price drops, there's no perfect time to ever buy a console. What's the alternative? No price drops ever? Whenever there's rumours of a pricedrop, message boards etc are always filled with people saying they're going to wait for it. Hell, I'm waiting for a PS2 pricedrop myself!
| The problem is that you're confusing the early adopter/Nintendo Enthusiast with the regular gamers. That's where the money is. |
The money is with the regular gamer, not the hardcore early adopter. The gaming "hardcore" makes up a small, but very vocal, part of the market apparently.
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Posted November 08 2003 - 12:01 AM
| Seems to me your winning here since you get some toilet reading material while waiting for your game to arrive. Talk about a contradiction in terms. |
The simple issue is that I don't WANT the magazine. I don't want them to kill a few dozen trees sending me something that'll go directly into a recycle bin.
| You know, I was going to respond to Justin's remarks, but Romier and everyone else have done such a good and thorough job of rebuking him, that I find no need to add much of anything at all! |
Glad to see you adding something useful to the discussion. Instead of taking it upon yourself to "rebuke" a member, why don't you discuss the issue. If I wanted to get flamed, I'd head elsewhere... like a Nintendo board and post the same as I have here.
Save for romier's sarcastic gif, he and I had a useful discussion about marketing practices, the role of an early adopter in a company's marketing strategy, and the fostering of support for people that already own a system. Unfortunately, as we have learned, it's not a black-and-white issue, and one that's difficult to separate from emotion. He and I have different opinions about the gaming industry, and that's perfectly acceptable. I'm a casual gamer who wishes that Nintendo would reward me as a loyal customer who has adopted each of their consoles and sacrificed thousands of dollars. He is a hardcore gamer who doesn't have the same feeling of entitlement. To each their own.
That having been said, I am getting a free copy of Mario Party 5, so I might as well buy Mario Golf, or the new Kart game, and get it that way. I have no problem spending money, I just don't want the Nintendo Power!
Posted November 08 2003 - 04:23 AM
| That having been said, I am getting a free copy of Mario Party 5, so I might as well buy Mario Golf, or the new Kart game, and get it that way. I have no problem spending money, I just don't want the Nintendo Power! |
Well don't buy Mario Golf, as it is not on the list of games that you can buy to get the disc, only Mario Party 5, Mario Kart: Double Dash, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga and 1080° Avalanche.
As others have said I don't see what the big deal is, Nintendo didn't have to offer this disc at all to any of us that already have the system, but they are and we get it for free if you were going to buy those games anyway, or if you wanted to buy it, you can along with a free subscribition to the mag. Early adopters get screwed yes, but we get to play the stuff right when it comes out not years or months later. Alot of things are like this, computers, cars, cell phones, ect.
| So what you're all saying is if i subscribe to NP, I will get the disc?? 1 year, 2 year or 3 year?? does it make a difference?? |
1 year would be fine, unless you want more years of NP. Here's the FAQ from the Nintendo site, you are in Canada right?
How do I get the disc through the subscription if I live in Canada?
Canadian consumers can go online and register for a My Nintendo online membership at any time. Once the My Nintendo profile is active and the subscription offer is available to order (on November 17), Canadian consumers can call 1-800-255-3700 to order the subscription by phone.
Posted November 08 2003 - 06:45 AM
| Well don't buy Mario Golf, as it is not on the list of games that you can buy to get the disc, only Mario Party 5, Mario Kart: Double Dash, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga and 1080° Avalanche. |
I know... they've got the standard legal language... "While supplies last." That always makes me nervious.