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Disney´s Enhanced for Home Theater 5.1 DD mix = DTS? In R4, it is...


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#41 of 51 David Sal

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Posted October 07 2003 - 10:25 AM

David, the DTS is in english as stated by Sergio. The Spanish edition should be available on big spanish markets in us like Florida, NY, LA etc. I'm from Puerto Rico.

#42 of 51 David Sal

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Posted October 07 2003 - 10:31 AM

By the way, this is the first dvd ever (that I recall) that uses alternate language subtitles for the commentary!!! I can hear the commentary with subs or watch the movie with "text commentary" Nice!!!

#43 of 51 Sergio Martorel

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Posted October 07 2003 - 10:38 AM

A bunch of DVDs released in Brazil have portuguese subtitles for the commentaries. From the top of my head I can remember Gladiator, Jackie Chan´s Police Story (although the guy who did the translation managed to screw up ALL the chinese names) and Charlie´s Angels.

#44 of 51 David Sal

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Posted October 07 2003 - 10:40 AM

Amazon has it:
http://www.amazon.co....v=glance&s=dvd

#45 of 51 Rick Blaine

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Posted October 07 2003 - 01:14 PM

To address an earlier issue

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Why the hell didn't Disney use DTS for the enhanced track in Region 1 anyway??


And I don´t think it was for lack of disk space.


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Actually the issue is throughput - not disk space.
With 2 448 DD 5.1 tracks, 1 384 DD 5.1 FrCan, 3 commentaries,and God knows what else the 10MBs bandwidth is pretty full, certainly no room to DTS.

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direct comparisons on foreign tracks will be difficult. All the foreign HTE mixes are done in the different languages, and unless there is an enhanced mix on the Latin American or Japanese discs, you are dealing with a pitch issue in PAL.

It would be nice if Disney would release a Special DTS edition of the enhanced mix at full bitrate!!!

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#46 of 51 Sergio Martorel

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Posted October 07 2003 - 01:27 PM

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With 2 448 DD 5.1 tracks, 1 384 DD 5.1 FrCan, 3 commentaries,and God knows what else the 10MBs bandwidth is pretty full, certainly no room to DTS.


THREE commentaries? What you´re talking about? There´s only one commentary track.

#47 of 51 AlexBC

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Posted October 07 2003 - 02:16 PM

It's the trade off for the DTS track, the R4 Brz and R3 Korea (and I believe the R2 as well) drop the French DD 5.1 and 2 comentary tracks for the DTS.

I would trade a commentary track or any other extra, for what it's worth, on a DTS track anyday (if its full bitrate, it wouldn't take more than a heartbit)

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also direct comparisons on foreign tracks will be difficult. All the foreign HTE mixes are done in the different languages, and unless there is an enhanced mix on the Latin American or Japanese discs, you are dealing with a pitch issue in PAL.


Please don't take me wrong, I don't want to be rude, but haven't you been reading the thread? The R4 Brz, R3 Korea (and I belive the R2 Jpn) all have the HTE DTS mix in English and are NTSC, so they suffer from no speedup.
Support the use of seamless branching on Sony BDs to always present the original theatrical cut along with the extended/alternate versions

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#48 of 51 Lewis Besze

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Posted October 07 2003 - 11:09 PM

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Do you have any information regarding how WB may have applied/not applied any such processing or flagging to the DD vs DTS on those titles?

David,
on all the 5 titles dialnorm was "bypassed" and DD tracks were encoded at 448kbps,which as you know still not the norm for WB.This was done in the recommendation of Dolby[!],which makes me believe that WB wanted to eliminate any possible differences besides the obvious codec efficiency.
All encoding was done by either inhouse or by the same vendor[not DTS or Dolby],so there can't be any chance for altering for any tracks.Now why WB choose these titles,I have no clue.

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Posted October 08 2003 - 01:42 AM

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Now why WB choose these titles,I have no clue.
Simply to test the waters with releasing DTS titles. They didn't sell as well as was hoped, hence no further DTS titles from Warner Home Video. (Morgan Creek, and music releases aside)

Unscientifically comparing Dolby to DTS on Twister.. Not much in it at all. And we're talking about a HT demo, highly active, violent surround mix. Interview with the Vampire, again, little, if any difference. Mostly, it's a subtle, and interesting mix. (Of course, I will bow to superior knowledge, and proper comparative efforts.)

How often do audio encoders improve their efficiency and quality with respective bitrates? By this I mean, new versions of Dolby or DTS coders, with improvements to the encoding schemes.

#50 of 51 Lewis Besze

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Posted October 08 2003 - 01:53 PM

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Simply to test the waters with releasing DTS titles.
Yeah, but why these particular 5,why not say the Batman series,or even upcoming new releases?
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How often do audio encoders improve their efficiency and quality with respective bitrates?
So far only DTS did such with their "half bit rate" encoder debuted on SPR,[also their music "format" 96/24 is recent].However it may take less room then it's predecessor,but it's efficiency since it's a perceptual coding is largely debatable.
Dolby seems to aim higher[bitrate] to it's current limit of 640kbps.

#51 of 51 DaViD Boulet

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Posted October 09 2003 - 12:59 AM

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Yeah, but why these particular 5,why not say the Batman series,or even upcoming new releases?

Amen. If they wanted to "test" DTS they should have picked Amadeus SE and Color Purple SE! Posted Image
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