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Nice article on some highly touted subs.


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#1 of 69 OFFLINE   Keir H

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Posted October 01 2003 - 09:37 AM

Here's a link to some highly sought after subs all in one article. Yes, some of the ones we all drool over Posted Image...just an FYI decisions decisions..yeah right,I wish!

http://www.soundstag....nded200308.htm

#2 of 69 OFFLINE   John_MackieBass

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Posted October 01 2003 - 09:51 AM

ok...I thought my 1400rms 18" project was nuts...

"Velodyne 1812

The massive Velodyne Signature 1812 subwoofer tips the scales at almost 400 pounds. The driver complement, just as massive as the aluminum and wood cabinet, includes 12" and 18" drivers mated to two 1250W amplifiers."

HAHAHAHAH!!! Those people are sick...i want to work for them!

#3 of 69 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted October 01 2003 - 12:43 PM

This brings up a thought question I've been beginning to formulate. Posted Image

Upgradeitis being what it is, if I already have a sub that goes flat to 21 Hz, it's down -6 dB at 20 Hz (measured in my own room, not manufacturer numbers), is that good enough? I think that what it would cost me to get appreciably down lower, and in terms of the size of the box I have now vs what it would take to get appreciably lower, I'm think I'm all set.

(Was thinking about moving from a Vandersteen V2W to a Velodyne HGS-15 or a SVS PB2-Plus or a James EMB-12 or 15, Paradigm Servo 15, etc.)
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#4 of 69 OFFLINE   Mike Allen

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Posted October 01 2003 - 12:50 PM

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"Krell MRS - The MRS has a 2600W amplifier that powers the two 15" drivers (each capable of 3" excursion), while the cabinet is constructed from 1" aluminum side panels and 2" baffles. The crossover electronics are even housed in their own metal case for isolation from the woofers. The cost of all this high-tech metal? A cool $28,000."

Posted Image***gasp***Posted Image I wonder what Bill Gates thinks of that bad boy?? I'm not sure who else could afford a $28k sub. And the box is made from 1" aluminum and a 2" aluminum baffle? Holy crap. They forgot the diamond and ruby encrusting.
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#5 of 69 OFFLINE   Wayne Ernst

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Posted October 01 2003 - 01:32 PM

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The price of the Velodyne Signature 1812 is $15,000.

Hmm ... I wonder if they'll ship this 400 Lb. beast for free? What a monster of a sub.
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#6 of 69 OFFLINE   Brian Bunge

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Posted October 01 2003 - 01:38 PM

You can outgun any of the high dollar, commercially available sub for a fraction of the cost. How about dual Adire Audio Tumults, a QSC PLX1450 amp, and a BFD? In the right enclosure it should bury the MRS or the Vel.
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#7 of 69 OFFLINE   Jaime B

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Posted October 01 2003 - 02:20 PM

The Krell MRS is actually a steal at $28,000 when you consider you get 5 Bose Acoustimass cubes included in the price. Posted Image

#8 of 69 OFFLINE   Frank Carter

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Posted October 01 2003 - 03:03 PM

I wonder how my dual AV15 sonotubes stack up to the big boys?

Is there something else to the article that I'm missing other than quoting manufacter specs?

#9 of 69 OFFLINE   Dan Hine

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Posted October 01 2003 - 04:20 PM

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I wonder how my dual AV15 sonotubes stack up to the big boys?


Sealed or Bass reflex? If reflex then it will probably outdo all of them...though Velodyne's Digital Drive room-correction is intriguing! And even sealed, if you factor in how much space yours takes up, the output and relative cost then you'll still come out on top. I can't believe how much mark up there is with this stuff!

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#10 of 69 OFFLINE   Frank Carter

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Posted October 01 2003 - 04:41 PM

Sealed or Bass reflex?
They're vented. 7.5ft^3 tuned to 18.3hz(unverified) with an 8" port in each. Powered with a Samson S1500(750Wx2).


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#11 of 69 OFFLINE   Dan Hine

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Posted October 01 2003 - 04:50 PM

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7.5ft^3 tuned to 18.3hz


LOL...Go figure!
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#12 of 69 OFFLINE   Frank Carter

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Posted October 01 2003 - 04:56 PM

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LOL...Go figure!
HEHE...I like how you think DanPosted Image.

My subs give me the best bass I've ever heard(by a huge margin). As you can see they're not totally finished yet, but they should before next week.

#13 of 69 OFFLINE   MichaelDDD

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Posted October 01 2003 - 08:55 PM

I don't get it. Where's the REVIEWS? All that's at that link is a big product listing. "Model 123, by XYZ, features blahblah and costs $$$$$."

That is not a review. Did I miss something?
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#14 of 69 OFFLINE   Mike Allen

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Posted October 01 2003 - 09:05 PM

That is not a review. Did I miss something?


Yeah, I think you missed the part where anyone dubbed this as a review, hehe Posted Image It's just a little article describing the features and prices of high end subs, no more...no less.
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Posted October 01 2003 - 09:55 PM

Hi Frank:

That 8" vent - is it commercially available, or is it fabricated? If it is fabricated, it is built from PVC? Also, are the endcaps flared, and if so how did you manage that? Thanks.

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Posted October 01 2003 - 10:16 PM

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Yeah, I think you missed the part where anyone dubbed this as a review, hehe It's just a little article describing the features and prices of high end subs, no more...no less.


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Posted Image Whoops...I must be REALLY tired. My bad. Just to show what a good sport I am when I make an @ss of myself, I won't even edit my original post. Posted Image
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#17 of 69 OFFLINE   Mike Allen

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Posted October 01 2003 - 10:21 PM

Don't worry man. I've made an @ss out of myself like 3 times today.....and it's only 5:20am Posted Image
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#18 of 69 OFFLINE   Frank Carter

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Posted October 02 2003 - 01:41 AM

Hi Frank:

That 8" vent - is it commercially available, or is it fabricated? If it is fabricated, it is built from PVC? Also, are the endcaps flared, and if so how did you manage that? Thanks.

Ed

Ed,
I sent you am email cause I don't want to detract from the original posters topic.

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#19 of 69 OFFLINE   Keir H

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Posted October 02 2003 - 03:34 AM

Man, looking at these subs again, if price was no object, would it be performance or design/styling that would get you to make a decision on one of these babies? They are all attractive and have great performance specs. This would be hard IF I had the $$$ Posted Image Hey, I can dream! Another question, the Krell is rated to 20hz @ 120db?! Yikes, but it shows ya how much of a value the B4+ is in comparison. I also notice they did not list the Wilson XS?

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Posted October 02 2003 - 10:13 AM

Keir...I'd be interested to see how these stack up against the B4+ in the same environment...If, and I don't have any doubts, the B4+ matches them, its simply amazing....now at 28,000 bucks, you could get 7 B4+'s and a few crowns to run them @ 750 watts rms per unit....I can say that my B4+ is all I need for a 4500 CF room...hitting uncorrected peaks of 122 on the rat shack meter...a few 118's continuous for a few seconds (matrix heli scene) and this was a few ticks below reference on my system..and at 12 feet! That's just the "SPL" part...the sub is VERY tight...accurate, and I actually use it for music...it keeps right up with my speakers...almost like it isn't there...Add L7 into the mix, and ahhh...Posted Image Glad to see it has been recognized...it deserves to be! If I wasn't afraid of busting something, I'd give it hell, and crank it up...the busting part is my house...not the subPosted Image Wife hates it too loud!


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