I've just had 'the' conversation with my supervisor (1 Viewer)

Gary->dee · Sep 30, 2003

You might know the one. They talk about your performance on the job, expectations, your future with the company and so on. It's the talk that eventually leads to the company letting you go if you don't improve. Well I could care less. I've been working at my job for more than 2 years and I'm sick of it anyway so if they show me the door I'll probably relish the time off. Then reality will sink in and the bills will mount.

I've begun the process of preparing for possible unemployment. I've made my doctors and dentists appointments and I've deleted a ton of files that I've kept on my computer. I know they could probably still access the stuff after it's been deleted but there wasn't any porn involved anyway so I'm not worried. I contacted someone who interviewed me earlier this year when I was eager to leave. Don't know if that'll come through or not. Don't really care anyway, I'm willing to move back down to San Diego with my family.

THIS JOB SUCKS

Woo just had to get that out as part of the psychological conditioning to prepare me for whatever may happen because if they show me the door that's what I'd like to remember about my job so I won't feel too bad about losing it.

Danny Tse · Sep 30, 2003

Hey Gary,

I am in the same boat as you are. I am sooooo sick of my job that the talk of possible layoffs is actually good news to me. WooHoo!!! But since it took my supervisor 7 months to give me my post-probation evaluation (and that's after I spoke with HR and have them force him to give me an evaluation to put into my personnel file), any talk of me not applying myself from him may take even longer.

Gary->dee · Sep 30, 2003

Right on, Danny. If they let me go I just hope it is deemed a lay off so I can get unemployment money. Anyway I'm also in the process of finding out more about personal bankruptcy. Two things I'm sick of: my job and paying the same bills every month. There are ways of fixing both of those.

LarryDavenport · Sep 30, 2003

At least your boss didn't comment on how you dress. I used to get a talking to by my supervisor for coming to work in jeans and t-shirt, despite the fact that I was doing telephone customer service for Eddie Bauer AND I bought my jeans and t-shirts from Eddie Bauer.

Gary->dee · Sep 30, 2003

Ironically enough I am wearing jeans and a T-shirt today and part of my problem with my job that I laid out to the supe was that I'm tired of this particular thing they got me working on which involves calling people on the phone and getting information from them. I compared it to telemarketing. But my clothes aren't a factor because it's a data company that deals with the entertainment industry.

Todd Hochard · Sep 30, 2003

paying the same bills every month.

Did you inherit these bills??? I'm not big on those who shirk personal responsibility. You bought the stuff, why should someone else pay for it?

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Danny Tse · Sep 30, 2003

I've talk to several people who started at about the same time as me, and they wanted out as well. I suppose it was just a mismatch of employees and the jobs involved. Oh, I am still doing my job as best as I can, it's just that I don't see myself growing professionally at my current job. Since layoffs are almost here, I will wait it out to get my unemployment benefits.

Steven K · Sep 30, 2003

Thank you Todd.

I'm actually sick and tired of people who are looking forward to being laid off because they want some "time off" or because they "hate their damn job." The reality is that most people don't like their job. It's nothing new, it's just that our society has become very good at providing handouts for those who just want a break.

I'm in the same boat as alot of people - good possibility of losing my job soon. But I do not look forward to this, and I try to do everything I can to control it.

Todd Hochard · Sep 30, 2003

Oh, I am still doing my job as best as I can, it's just that I don't see myself growing professionally at my current job.

I think many people have unrealistic expectations about job growth, anyway. It seems that everyone thinks they deserve six promotions in five years, and making six figures 2-3 years out of school. I find that, for many, it's a false ambition- the entire goal is the money, not spectacular, and justly rewarded, performance in their field. Every service job is just a stepping stone of mediocrity on the way to the top (a job which most at the top completely suck at, IMO), eh?

I wish there were more people who were satisfied with what they do. They'd be a lot better at it (and I, the end consumer, would be better off for it) if they were.

I'm suggesting that you embrace your mediocre low-to-mid level work, and dazzle those around you. If you need "growth" in your life, there are myriad ways outside of work to get that fulfillment.

Don't get me wrong- I may take some time off for me (and my family) in the not-too distant future, but it will be self-financed.

Todd

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Holadem · Sep 30, 2003

Work is not fun. That's why they call it work.

I'm suggesting that you embrace your mediocre low-to-mid level work, and dazzle those around you. If you need "growth" in your life, there are myriad ways outside of work to get that fulfillment.

Amen.

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H

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Patrick Sun · Sep 30, 2003

Some people work to live, others live to work. Which describes you?

Gary->dee · Sep 30, 2003

I'm suggesting that you embrace your mediocre low-to-mid level work,

Aim low is that it? So basically I'm screwed because I have ambitions and desires to do something else with my life and I should be comfortable with where I am now. It's like "Here's a rock, suck on it for a while to make more saliva in your mouth so you can quench your thirst".

Todd some of the stuff you wrote makes sense but I think it's all relative. You can't apply the same way of thinking to each person because each person is different. If you feel your perspective works for you then that's great, more power to you. I think it's wrong to suggest to embrace mediocrity and I believe people should always strive for a better life. False ambition is better than no ambition at all.

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Jack Briggs · Sep 30, 2003

Gary, I normally don't participate in these types of threads, but your latest post tells me you did absolutely everything wrong and nothing right when talking with your supervisor. You basically said, "I don't care about this job, and that's why I was goofing off." Whether you mean it or not, you have to give your employer the impression that your job is about the most important thing in your life (and you should perform in like manner). Also, bear in mind that the maximum unemployment benefits in California (assuming your salary matches the requirement) are only about $250-300 or thereabouts a week. Think about that. Not an easy life being unemployed, especially in this expensive state during this period of economic stagnation.

Todd Hochard · Sep 30, 2003

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is this in reference to my remark about filing for bankruptcy?

Yes.

Find something you are good at, and thrive.

Todd

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Gary->dee · Sep 30, 2003

You're under the false notion (along with most of America) that more income = better life.

I think a higher income equates to a better quality of life. But I also think that more money doesn't necessarily make a person happier. At this point I might be happier as a shrimp farmer in Norway.

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Ted Lee · Sep 30, 2003

it's seems pretty clear you don't like your job and i'm sure (whether you realize it or not) that your performance/attitude reflects this.

but you're doing the right thing by leaving. staying there is doing neither you (nor the company) any good.

bail out and get yourself a meaningful job.

nuff said.

Todd Hochard · Sep 30, 2003

I think a higher income equates to a better quality of life. But I also think that more money doesn't necessarily make a person happier.

I'd put it exactly the other way around, once middle class is reached. High net worth (i.e. "having" money) is more likely to make you happier than a high income. This is especially true if you been at the same (or slightly increasing) income level for a long period of time. Basically, it's an indicator of a financially secure person.

I didn't mean to single you out specifically. I work with lots of "half-assed" people whose jobs are union-protected (I'm a consultant on the outside looking in, so to speak), and their sustained lackluster performance is quite annoying. You could say it's a sore spot with me.

As stated, I'd recommend moving on quickly, for your benefit. Good luck.

Todd

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Chris Lockwood · Sep 30, 2003

Todd, union jobs in Orlando? What type of jobs are those? I'm guessing teachers or other gov't employees, because that's about it around here for union jobs.

Todd Hochard · Oct 1, 2003

Semiconductor Manufacturing.

Please note that I'm not completely anti-union (in this age of CEO "rock-star" pay, someone's got to look for the average guy), but I've never agreed with the protection they've offered the tenured slacker. In fact, I have no use for tenure in general. Perform, and perform well, or be gone.

Todd

Kirk Gunn · Oct 1, 2003

Gary - I suggest you quit before you're fired. While being firing/laid off allows you to collect unemployment, it is a scar on your resume. Do yourself and your supervisor a favor and leave as soon as you can find another position. You'll be better off in the long run.

Good Luck in finding that perfect job.

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