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Velodyne hgs10 vs hgs12


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#1 of 9 OFFLINE   Ray Gutnick

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Posted November 14 2001 - 09:13 PM

I am considering buying my first sub (probably used from ebay) and I like the small size and black gloss appearance of the hgs line (they would match the appearance of my nht 3.3s and 2.5s). The room size is about 15'x15' (apartment), so I don't want anything too large. I've heard (and been impressed) by both in different stores, but have been unable to do an a/b test. Has anyone bought an hgs10 and felt they had to upgrade to an hgs12? Any comments welcome. ps: I'm using the start of side 2 of das boot for the demo - you really hear/feel what you are missing without a sub (pun intended).

#2 of 9 OFFLINE   Tom Vodhanel

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Posted November 14 2001 - 09:16 PM

If you can budget it, I'd definitely go with the HGS12. Once it's properly located/calibrated...it can't overpower the system so there's really no drawbacks.

Make sure the ebay seller provides a warranty if you're purchasing new(check with Vel to make sure they're authorized). Also, in a squarish room like yours...you might run into some modal issues(room induced peaks/nulls)...but you can worry about that down the road Posted Image


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Posted November 14 2001 - 09:22 PM

Of the two, I'd recommend the HGS12 for a room your size. It's not that much bigger than the HGS10.

#4 of 9 OFFLINE   Ray Gutnick

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Posted November 15 2001 - 12:25 PM

Thanks for the info... the room isn't actually square, so hopefully those harmonics won't be an issue.

#5 of 9 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted November 15 2001 - 01:19 PM

I'm using the HGS10 in a room that's slightly bigger than yours. I don't recall whether the 12 was even available when I bought mine, but it wouldn't have mattered. I needed a high WAF ("Wife Acceptance Factor"), so I wanted the smallest possible box that would have good sound. Not once in three years have I ever felt that the HGS 10 wasn't up to the task. Full disclosure: I'm not one of those people who feels that the bass isn't adequate unless it's knocking me out of my chair. The HGS10 blends seamlessly with my Monitor Audio fronts and rears and provides what, for me, is just the right amount of tight, clean bass extension. As always, your mileage may vary. M.
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#6 of 9 OFFLINE   Martino

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Posted November 16 2001 - 02:23 PM

I auditioned both of these fine subs, and ended up with the hgs12. I am comfortable with the local store, and asked my most trusted salesman if either of these subs ever clipped or had the overload circuit turn it off. He said that he did have the hgs10 turn itself off only a couple of times in all of his earth shaking demos, but never had the hgs12 do the same thing. I would never run at those levels and still keep my house standing, but I went with the hgs12 just in case.

#7 of 9 OFFLINE   Tom Vodhanel

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Posted November 16 2001 - 03:12 PM

>>>I am comfortable with the local store, and asked my most trusted salesman if either of these subs ever clipped or had the overload circuit turn it off. He said that he did have the hgs10 turn itself off only a couple of times in all of his earth shaking demos, but never had the hgs12 do the same thing. I would never run at those levels and still keep my house standing, but I went with the hgs12 just in case.<<< The HGS servos don't really work like that...limiting wise. They can be driven to the point of total shutdown(as you've alluded too)...but they have a built in 8:1 compression limiter when they approach the maximum allowed excursion.(preset at the factory). In this sense, when the HGS units approach the preset driver excursion point...the limiters allow the subwoofer to get 1dB louder for every 8dB louder the input signal gets. TV

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Posted November 16 2001 - 11:38 PM

My HGS 12 has shut down on me. I was playing with a 20Hz sinsoid and the power just shut down. I had to pull the power cord to get it back on again. Not a typical situatuon but it can be done. Allan

#9 of 9 OFFLINE   Randy G

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Posted November 17 2001 - 07:08 AM

As a point of information, the HGS-12 is twice the size of the HGS-10. ------------------




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