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Anyone Get Their Child Tax Credit Refund Yet ?


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#1 of 29 OFFLINE   Alex S

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Posted July 30 2003 - 08:00 AM

I heard they were supposed to start in July.

Anyone get their $400 per child tax credit yet?

#2 of 29 OFFLINE   ken thompson

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Posted July 30 2003 - 08:05 AM

Yup.

#3 of 29 OFFLINE   Alex S

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Posted July 30 2003 - 08:17 AM

When did you get it Ken ?

#4 of 29 OFFLINE   Carl Miller

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Posted July 30 2003 - 08:42 AM

I got $400 yesterday (the mailings started on the 25th), but was denied $400 for my other child because there was a mistake made in the processing of my original return.

I put my daughters social security # correctly on the return, but the IRS made an error inputting it. Several weeks after I filed I got a notice they disallowed my daughters exemption. I called, got it corrected and thought we were done with it.

Now I get this check which is half what I thought it would be. So I called, and the customer rep told me that the credit is based on your original return, and since I made an error with my daughters SS#, I'd have to wait till next year to get the child tax credit for her.

I work for the IRS, so I know there's no use in fighting this, and it's really no big deal...But it does irritate me that I didn't make the error to begin with, and now have to wait until next year to claim the extra $400.

Go figure.
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#5 of 29 OFFLINE   Christ Reynolds

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Posted July 30 2003 - 08:53 AM

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I work for the IRS, so I know there's no use in fighting this
this doesn't make me feel very good Posted Image

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#6 of 29 OFFLINE   Patrick Larkin

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Posted July 30 2003 - 09:10 AM

Carl - you didn't file electronically? Input error?

The mailings depend on the last 2 digits of your social security number. The schedule I saw last week said my refund wouldn't go out until Aug 8 or something.

Edit...here's the schedule based on the last 2 digits of SSN:

00-33 -- mailed July 25
34-66 -- mailed August 1
67-99 -- mailed August 8

#7 of 29 OFFLINE   Carl Miller

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Posted July 30 2003 - 11:25 AM

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this doesn't make me feel very good

I didn't mean it that way Posted Image I just meant that as it stands now, there haven't been any provisions made for errors on the original return no matter who is at fault, even if these errors do effect the credit. This may change if it effects a lot of people, but so far there's no talk of it.

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Carl - you didn't file electronically? Input error?

No, I file on paper. People enter certain info from a paper return manually, into a database. Whoever entered the SS # for my daughter during processing made a mistake. The number I puton the return was correct. But the number which ended up in the database wasn't even close to her number, and got rejected when the computer picked up that the last name on our return for my daughter didn't match the last name for the SS #. It's convuluted I know, but that's how it works...or doesn't work in this case.
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#8 of 29 OFFLINE   DanaA

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Posted July 30 2003 - 11:40 AM

I guess I'm still not understanding at all why you can't challenge this successfully. All they'd have to do is check your original to see if you put in the correct information. If it was their mistake, they should fix the problem period. They sure as heck ain't always forgiving of mistakes made by the public. This just seems totally wrong.

In other words, if I ran a car repair place and accidentally, at my fault, destroyed a customer's engine, it wouldn't wash at all if I said, "I'm not going to fix the problem. I haven't made a provision to do so." It doesn't shift liability because a company or an agency hasn't done the forethought, especially when human error on their part should be easily foreseeable.

#9 of 29 OFFLINE   Chris

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Posted July 30 2003 - 11:51 AM

Because, as far as the govt. is concerned, he has challenged it successfully, and he will be able to collect on the added $400 back onto his tax return in January, or whenever he files next.. since this is an advance on your estimated tax return, they will not correct an advance, but they won't contest you claiming on your next return Posted Image
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#10 of 29 OFFLINE   DanaA

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Posted July 30 2003 - 11:59 AM

Okay,

Now I get it. Posted Image

#11 of 29 OFFLINE   Carl Miller

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Posted July 30 2003 - 12:15 PM

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I guess I'm still not understanding at all why you can't challenge this successfully. All they'd have to do is check your original to see if you put in the correct information. If it was their mistake, they should fix the problem period. They sure as heck ain't always forgiving of mistakes made by the public. This just seems totally wrong.

I'll explain it. Just please keep in mind that I agree with you in principle.

If you file a paper return, the info from it whether correctly transferred or not goes onto the database. Your paper return then gets filed away, while the numbers from your return end up in the database. Hopefully, these numbers are transfered correctly, and the accuracy rate is quite high but far from perfect.

When I first got a letter about the problem with my return back in April, I simply called, gave the correct number and the necessary info. The problem was manually corrected by a customer service rep to get me the rest of my refund, but the return itself which is on the database remains unchanged from how it was orginally filed, error included.

And that's where the problem is. We're talking about a 40 year old computer system, and there is no way to make the correction you, and I think should have been made...One that is system-wide and actually replaces the incorrect info with the correct info. There is simply no function to accomplish that task on the current system.

This means that in order for me to get the $400 I'm still entitled to now, there would have to be another manual correction to my account...A rep would have to fix this manually the same way they fixed the problem when they disallowed the exemption for my daughter.

But the reps aren't allowed to do this, because Congress made no provision for it when the credit was created. So what it boils down to is whether or not you want to take on Congress in a quest to right a wrong.

I'd rather just wait till next year Posted Image
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#12 of 29 OFFLINE   Craig Robertson

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Posted July 30 2003 - 01:17 PM

i got my $1200 check on the 26th.Posted Image

#13 of 29 OFFLINE   Steve Clark

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Posted July 30 2003 - 01:43 PM

I received my $1,200 check on July 29. Plan on spending every penney of it on household items such as appliances and electronics.

#14 of 29 OFFLINE   Chris_Morris

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Posted July 30 2003 - 02:00 PM

Got a letter on July 24 stating the $400 had been applied to the balance I owed.


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#15 of 29 OFFLINE   John_Bonner

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Posted July 30 2003 - 03:04 PM

Got my $800 on Monday. Since it was for my children it's going right into their savings.
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#16 of 29 OFFLINE   Chris Beveridge

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Posted July 31 2003 - 12:05 AM

Forget the kids. Daddy needs a new plasma tv!

#17 of 29 OFFLINE   Alex S

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Posted July 31 2003 - 01:30 AM

For those who have gotten it already is the last 2 digits of your SS# between 00 and 33 ?

#18 of 29 OFFLINE   Seth--L

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Posted July 31 2003 - 01:35 AM

I received my $1,200 check on July 29. Plan on spending every penney of it on household items such as appliances and electronics.


So much for it being used on your kids.
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#19 of 29 OFFLINE   Steve Clark

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Posted July 31 2003 - 01:56 AM

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So much for it being used on your kids
Some of the electronics I plan on purchasing are TiVo and XBox related items, which are used by the kids regularly. I already had money set aside for the kid's back-to-school items and private school tuition this fall so yes, already much of my earnings has already been spent on the kids.

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For those who have gotten it already is the last 2 digits of your SS# between 00 and 33
Yes, my SSN ends in 09.

#20 of 29 OFFLINE   Danny R

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Posted July 31 2003 - 02:05 AM

So much for it being used on your kids

When the kids pay their own taxes they can get their own money back. Posted Image

I don't have kids, but I have noticed that the withholding portion of the tax bill is also in effect, as I'm getting about $15 more per check. $15 x 26 checks remaining this year = $390
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