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HTF Review: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - The Complete Fourth Season

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#21 of 99 OFFLINE   Joseph J.D

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Posted July 25 2003 - 01:59 PM

Great review Scott! Now the wait for Season 4 is gonna be excruciating for the next week and a half. I really can't wait to have this set in my hands. Posted Image
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#22 of 99 OFFLINE   Steve_Ri



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Posted July 27 2003 - 10:29 AM

Thanks for the review. How do most watch this show while watching on a wide screen tv ? In the stretched mode or normal ?

#23 of 99 OFFLINE   Bryan Tuck

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Posted July 27 2003 - 03:43 PM

If the season containing THE SEARCH 1 & 2, SECOND SKIN, THE DEFIANT, IMPROBABLE CAUSE, THE DIE IS CAST, THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, and THE ADVERSARY is "weak", I can't wait to see what the show is like when it gets in high gear!!!

Oh, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Posted Image I wouldn't call the first 3 seasons weak, either, but it does indeed get even better from there.

Glad to hear you've gotten into the series, Rob. Posted Image Posted Image
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#24 of 99 OFFLINE   Greg_S_H


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Posted July 27 2003 - 04:47 PM

Be quiet, Bryan! These next 9 days are going to be murder enough without you rubbing it in. Posted Image

#25 of 99 OFFLINE   Steven_J_H


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Posted July 28 2003 - 08:18 AM

Can't wait either. DS9's season 4 was great. Posted Image

#26 of 99 OFFLINE   Jeff Kleist

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Posted July 28 2003 - 08:45 AM

For anyone in the Philly area who wants to get ahead, Channel 48 will start showing DS9 5 days a week on Monday at 11PM, but unfortunately the DVDs are too far ahead, averaging 1 season every 5 weeks, they'll only be on 5 when 7 comes out Posted Image

#27 of 99 OFFLINE   CaptDS9E



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Posted July 28 2003 - 11:59 AM

Season 4 was where the ds9 saga pretty much kicked it into gear. Theres no looking back from here


#28 of 99 OFFLINE   Johnny Jr.

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Posted July 28 2003 - 08:38 PM

I was just curiouse if the 3rd season dvd set had less then ten section 31 files. For some reason I recall 10 for the 1st season, 10 for the 2nd season and about 7 for the 3rd season. Can anyone confirm this for me?? thanks
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#29 of 99 OFFLINE   Jonathan Kaye

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Posted July 28 2003 - 08:50 PM

Thanks for the review. How do most watch this show while watching on a wide screen tv ? In the stretched mode or normal ?

Hang your head in shame for even thinking of that question.Posted Image

Seriously, though, as a 4:3 programme it should be watched in 4:3 mode. Simple as that.Posted Image
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#30 of 99 OFFLINE   LisaDoris


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Posted July 29 2003 - 12:02 AM

I really can't wait until next week for this. The Visitor, Home Front, and Paradise Lost are some of my favorite episodes and S4 is really when DS9 started to kick butt and take names.

#31 of 99 OFFLINE   Tony Whalen

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Posted July 29 2003 - 02:53 AM

For some reason I recall 10 for the 1st season, 10 for the 2nd season and about 7 for the 3rd season.

Same thing here Johnny.

#32 of 99 OFFLINE   Darren Haycock

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Posted July 29 2003 - 04:48 AM

Yeah, once Sisko shaved his head and got the goatee, the series went badass with him. Now if only I can dig up some cash for this beauty...Posted Image
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#33 of 99 OFFLINE   Andrew Bunk

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Posted July 29 2003 - 06:36 AM

I just finished Season 3 over the weekend, and there were only 7 hidden files. Instead of hunting around for all of them, I just used the title key to advance one title at a time. If memory serves me right, there were only 15 titles overall on disc 7 of Season 3, whereas 1 and 2 had 18 I believe. I've been getting mine on release day at best Buy so having the bonus disc has been nice-I especially liked the Defiant feature on Season 3's bonus disc. Can't wait for all the seasons-thankfully after having to wait two more months for Season 5, there will only be 1 month waits for 6 and 7.
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#34 of 99 OFFLINE   MattJ



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Posted July 31 2003 - 06:55 AM

Does anyone yet know if "To the Death" has been issued uncut on the season 4 DVD set. Apparantly, the episode was cut by about 45 seconds for US TV transmission. What version of this episode is on the disc? Paramount's original episode, or the aired version which was cut?

I need to know whether to buy the R1 or R2 release, as the episode was only cut by 6 seconds in the UK.

#35 of 99 OFFLINE   Scott Kimball

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Posted July 31 2003 - 07:12 AM

I wasn't aware of the cuts.

All I can tell you is that the running time on the R1 release for episode 496, "To the Death," is 00:44:57.


#36 of 99 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted August 03 2003 - 10:55 AM

I was lucky enough to receive my season 4 set early, and I've done some viewing and a lot of experimenting with playback of the theme.

First the bad news: The distortion in the opening notes of the theme is still there, even though the theme has a new mix.

But now the good news: This is definitely hardware-dependent, and oddly enough the variable is the player, which is something I haven't seen in a long time. As best as I can tell, this problem only appears with Panasonic players, and only with older models. It can be reproduced without fail on my A310 and H1000 (the latter was released at the end of 1999). On a more recent Panasonic (the DMR-E80 recorder) and an older Sony (the original 7000), everything was fine.

I confirmed these same results with a season 3 disc.

So now I know why more people didn't report this. My thanks to everyone here for helping me track this down.

As for season 4, I'm already through the first disc, rediscovering wonderful episodes that I haven't seen since they first aired. What a series!

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#37 of 99 OFFLINE   CaptDS9E



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Posted August 03 2003 - 11:29 AM

I got the set a few days ago and have been doing all
ds9 all the time. Watched the first 5 discs and damn i am glad these dvd's have come out. A year or so back a a bunch of my tapes were ruined so most of my 2,3 and season 4 were down the tubes. Here they never replay ds9 so i was stuck. But its fun rewatching some of these episodes after such a long time. Cant wait for the final 3 seasons. those who have not seen them are in for a treat. well i was just popping in with a post from the city.


#38 of 99 OFFLINE   Brent Smith

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Posted August 05 2003 - 02:31 AM

Hi Scott,

Thank you first for the wonderful review on this set.

The one thing I want to thank you for is the confirmation on my fear of the chapter stop issues "continuing". Who at Paramount can we complain to about the shoddy placement of the opening (post teaser) chapter stop? I know it isn't a big thing, but I for one don't want to sit through the opening credits ALL the time to get to the story since you never seem to know on which discs/episodes has been hit with the issue. I own multiple set of other series and I have never seen this problem crop up before. Perhaps you or Martin at Paramount can shed so light on why this is happening and why no-one has caught it (or perhaps cares about it enough to correct it) yet?

Thank you,

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#39 of 99 OFFLINE   Jeff Kleist

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Posted August 05 2003 - 02:41 AM

Paramount is aware of the issue. Who knows why it has not been fixed on TWO series running.

#40 of 99 OFFLINE   Brent Smith

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Posted August 05 2003 - 03:23 AM

Hi Jeff,

I am beginning to formulate a theory on it why it hasn't been caught, and it may not be entirely Paramount "fault" (although they do have some QC issues they need to fix) In reviewing some of my home recorded tapes (yes I still have some of them (beginning to fodderizing most to save on cost of new tapes) and have noticed that in some cases the home recorded tapes and the display as to where the DVD's pickup are in some cases almost identical. I am thinking that someone is going off the old timing sheets for commercials breaks(not realizing that the commercial breaks are now unnecessary) when doing the editing and placement of the chapter stops, thus messing up the opening (post teaser) of the disc. The only thing that punches a hole in this theory is the inconsistency of the issue (some disc's have it some don't, etc..).

I for one would be really interested in hearing a response from Paramount on an issue that annoys fans on one of their prime "cash cows".


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