Ron Katcher
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- Sep 11, 2001
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Hey everyone, I just upgrated my HT system and am looking for some help with what I hope is not a real problem. For background, I have a Yamaha HTR-5460 receiver with Monitor Audio Silver 4i fronts, 10i center and 3i rears. Until today, I had only the fronts and center and was very pleased with the sound and my ability to play music and DVD movies pretty loud. I finally completed my in-wall wiring for the rears and went to test out the 5 speakers together. In the process, I upgraded all my speaker cabling to a good-quality 12 gauge wire (more on this later).
Well, the first thing I noticed was the volume was somewhat less at comparable settings with 5 speakers than it was with the just the front 3. Then, on music the receiver shut off at -50db and for movies it shut off at -42db. When I told the receiver I had no rear speakers, I could achieve much high volumes with no problem. Note that I am not talking about ear-shattering loudness, but certainly enough volume to give a movie-theater-like feeling. Also, when the receiver shut down, it did not seem at all hot like it was being overloaded or anything.
Anyway, I consulted my Owners Manual which mentioned the receiver's "protection circuitry" which would turn off the receiver if there was a problem with speaker wiring. In fact, after I would turn the receiver back on following a shut-off, it would display a message to check the speaker wiring. So... I pull the unit off the rack and I did notice that some of the 12 guage wiring may have had a strand or two that did not fit into the binding post completely (due to its thickness) and might have been touching the receiver case AROUND the binding post. The Manual specifically mentions that speaker wiring should not touch anything but the binding post.
My questions are these: Before investing in 5 pairs of good banana plugs or other connectors, can this wiring as described be causing my problem? It seems strange to me that the receiver would only shut down at higher volumes. Is anyone familiar with the protection circuitry and whether my symptoms sound familiar? Any help would be appreciated... I am hoping that I didn't just buy a receiver that cannot realistically power 5 speakers at a decent volume level.
Thanks,
Ron
Well, the first thing I noticed was the volume was somewhat less at comparable settings with 5 speakers than it was with the just the front 3. Then, on music the receiver shut off at -50db and for movies it shut off at -42db. When I told the receiver I had no rear speakers, I could achieve much high volumes with no problem. Note that I am not talking about ear-shattering loudness, but certainly enough volume to give a movie-theater-like feeling. Also, when the receiver shut down, it did not seem at all hot like it was being overloaded or anything.
Anyway, I consulted my Owners Manual which mentioned the receiver's "protection circuitry" which would turn off the receiver if there was a problem with speaker wiring. In fact, after I would turn the receiver back on following a shut-off, it would display a message to check the speaker wiring. So... I pull the unit off the rack and I did notice that some of the 12 guage wiring may have had a strand or two that did not fit into the binding post completely (due to its thickness) and might have been touching the receiver case AROUND the binding post. The Manual specifically mentions that speaker wiring should not touch anything but the binding post.
My questions are these: Before investing in 5 pairs of good banana plugs or other connectors, can this wiring as described be causing my problem? It seems strange to me that the receiver would only shut down at higher volumes. Is anyone familiar with the protection circuitry and whether my symptoms sound familiar? Any help would be appreciated... I am hoping that I didn't just buy a receiver that cannot realistically power 5 speakers at a decent volume level.
Thanks,
Ron