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#1 of 36 OFFLINE   MikeKaz

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Posted June 07 2003 - 07:53 AM

Its not that big a deal but I couldnt help myself from mentioning it- People may or may not realize this but almost all the non-dialogue sounds you hear in movies (footsteps, punches, kissing, stuff breaking etc.) is made by these people called Foley artists who basically sit in a recording room and watch a movie amd record all those sounds right there. So they break and hit stuff and get it all on tape and thats what ends up in the movie as the background sound.

Anyways- I was watching Terminator 2 today, and I was cracking up in the scene where Sarah Conner has just knocked out the security guard, and is prancing around the hospital with her little nightstick. She's completely barefoot, but the sound effect they use while she's walking down the hall makes her sound like she's wearing a pair of steel toed work bootsPosted Image!!! The Foley guys completely screwed it up. I guess they weren't paying attention and just assumed she had shoes on. It really sticks out because there is no other sound in the scene at that time, just her clunking down the hall in her big old heavy boots. This sort of thing happens all the time in movies, its no big thing. I just couldnt help bringing this one to everyone's attention.

#2 of 36 OFFLINE   Holadem

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Posted June 07 2003 - 10:20 AM

Yay! Thanks for giving me a good reason to throw T2 in for another spin! It's been what, a couple of months?... Posted Image

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#3 of 36 OFFLINE   Jeremy Allin

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Posted June 07 2003 - 10:30 AM

Mike...that's great. Posted Image

I've got a keen ear for stuff like this, but hadn't noticed that one...it's been a while.

#4 of 36 OFFLINE   KyleK

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Posted June 07 2003 - 02:34 PM

There are so many goofs and continuity errors in T2...I kind of wish I didn't know about them all. It's a bit harder to enjoy the film when you're looking for the steam-shooting things on the grill, or the blurred explosion frame, or the magically reappearing semi truck windows.

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#5 of 36 OFFLINE   Wayne Bundrick

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Posted June 08 2003 - 03:19 AM

I hear quiet footsteps, but not barefoot. It sounds like shoes, definitely not boots. The sound is immediately contrasted by the heavier footsteps of T-1000 as he transitions from the guard to Robert Patrick.

In the next scene the foley artists put her in basketball shoes, because when Arnold comes out of the elevator and she slips trying to stop herself, her feet make squeaky noises.

The movie is full of unnatural sounding foley effects.
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#6 of 36 OFFLINE   MikeKaz

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Posted June 08 2003 - 11:25 AM

try turning it up a little louder

#7 of 36 OFFLINE   Wayne Bundrick

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Posted June 08 2003 - 11:31 AM

I had it up loud enough. If you think it sounded like Linda Hamilton was wearing combat boots, what do you think Robert Patrick was wearing?
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#8 of 36 OFFLINE   Colin Sims

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Posted June 08 2003 - 01:40 PM

Obviously the academy liked the army boots when they gave T2 the best sound oscar in 91.

#9 of 36 OFFLINE   KyleK

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Posted June 08 2003 - 01:45 PM

Actually, I think the sound effects were intentionally exaggerated for the most part, in order to make it seem "larger than life." For instance, Arnold's shotgun sound actually is several different gun sounds and a canon blast mixed together.

#10 of 36 OFFLINE   John Watson

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Posted June 08 2003 - 06:45 PM

Foley artists? Thanks, now I know who to blame for all the lousy sound effects in many programs.

You know, where it sounds like they've put the microphone in somebody's pocket, because the "background" noises are wildly disproportionately loud relative to the dialogue, or the action that is of interest.

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#11 of 36 OFFLINE   Robin Warren

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Posted June 09 2003 - 12:21 AM

One of my fave sounds is in the Matrix Reloaded Burly Brawl scene when Neo knocks over a pile of Agents and you can hear a bowling ball knocking over some pins.

#12 of 36 OFFLINE   Joshua_Y

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Posted June 09 2003 - 12:30 AM

Really...it sounded like a metal pipe to me...

#13 of 36 OFFLINE   Matt Pelham

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Posted June 09 2003 - 01:13 AM

Matrix Reloaded Burly Brawl


I thought the Burly Brawl scene wasn't until Revolutions?

And about the current subject, my dad and I always had a good laugh about that. Terminator 2 was my first introduction to "movie goofs" when my dad found a list list on the net and brought it home. We spent a good few hours watching the taped from TV VHS version and spotting all the mistakes, including the barefoot Sarah scene (our personal favorite!).

Ahhh....memories.

#14 of 36 OFFLINE   Robin Warren

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Posted June 09 2003 - 06:15 AM

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I thought the Burly Brawl scene wasn't until Revolutions?


?? Did you see Reloaded?
It was definately bowling pins...My sister, brother in law and wife all remarked about it afterwards.(not that that is definitive proof) It was very distinctive.

#15 of 36 OFFLINE   Dan_Fitz

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Posted June 09 2003 - 04:32 PM

I definatly heard the bowling pin sound in reloaded. It was well placed though.
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#16 of 36 OFFLINE   Jeff Adams

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Posted June 10 2003 - 02:20 AM

I too noticed the bowling pin effect. That was pretty funny.
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#17 of 36 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted June 10 2003 - 02:25 AM

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Foley artists? Thanks, now I know who to blame for all the lousy sound effects in many programs.

It's the foley artists who record sounds, but it's the sound editors who decide which sounds to use. Often the reason an effect sounds wrong is because it has not been specially recorded for a film or show but has simply been pulled from a library. (This is actually a plot point in the film Blowout.)

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#18 of 36 OFFLINE   John Watson

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Posted June 11 2003 - 02:12 AM

Point taken!

But I've long been appalled by those decisions, and the lack of proportion among sounds in many productions. Probaly similar to the mindset of the audio engineers on the overly compressed cds that many discuss on the Music board.

Anyway, real human hearing is intentional, we focus on the speech, and to hear the noise of change in the pocket, or the rustling of gowns, as tho the ladies in costume dramas had microphones in the hems of their skirts, drives me crazy.

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#19 of 36 OFFLINE   Aaron Reynolds

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Posted June 11 2003 - 05:50 AM

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I too noticed the bowling pin effect. That was pretty funny.

A similar effect in T2: I swear that if you crank it loud enough, when Arnold smashes through the wall at Cyberdyne you can hear the voice of the Kool-Aid jug from those old commercials saying "Oh Yeah!", just like in the old Kool-Aid commercials (where the jug busts through a wall, shouts "Oh Yeah" and gives the kids something to drink).

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Posted June 11 2003 - 09:14 AM

I absolutely HATE HATE HATE Posted Image when I hear the same stock sounds recycled OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!! Listen carefully and you can hear the same creaky metal gate, the same laughing children, the same screeching cat, in EVERY SCENE OF EVERY FILM EVER MADE that would call for such a sound. It really pisses me off more than you can imagine. It's just laziness and cheapness that keeps these things getting cycled through over and over, but honestly, how expensive can it be to just go out there with a microphone and record some new sounds?! ARGH!!!

Speaking of cat sounds, has anyone else noticed that WHENEVER they show a cat in a scene, no matter HOW FAR AWAY in the background the cat is, they always HAVE to make a sound for it?! Come on people, not all cats meow all the time. I swear, it drives me up a freakin' wall.





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