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Teen Girl Faces Jail Time For Blue Lights On Car


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#81 of 92 OFFLINE   Ryan Wright

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Posted June 03 2003 - 03:52 AM

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Ryan: I'm seeing too many people (teenagers & adults alike) do all kinds of things that we/they KNOW are wrong, things that are stupid/dangerous/disrepectful/unethical, that end up hurting others--either physically, mentally or financially--just because the law DIDN'T say it was stupid/dangerous/disrespectful/unethical.
OK, so if they do something that hurts you, find a lawyer. Or if the damage is minor, take them to small claims. That will settle that. Or, I suppose you could lobby to have a law created. It's better that you fight to stop certain activities, than have to fight to pass a law saying activity x is OK.

Lastly, you can't legislate morality. Something you find unacceptable may be perfectly acceptable to me, and vice versa. In most cases there is no right or wrong here, just people's perception of the issue. If a large majority decides something is wrong (ie, murder), it becomes a legal issue and is no longer a question of morality.

#82 of 92 OFFLINE   Tommy Ceez

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Posted June 03 2003 - 06:06 AM

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. I can speculate that someone who doesn't know me could label me as a punk; that is without realizing that I'm graduating at the top of my high school class, do not do drugs, and have never been in trouble with the law, not even something as minor as a speeding ticket.


Punk!


Am I the only one who sees a girl with a blue light on her car getting a ticket instead of a warning, going to court and getting Jail time instead of the stated fine and instantly thinks...

Raging additude problem.
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#83 of 92 OFFLINE   Joel Mack

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Posted June 03 2003 - 06:30 AM

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Raging additude problem.

On whose part? I agree if you're referring to the law enforcement side.

#84 of 92 OFFLINE   Tommy Ceez

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Posted June 04 2003 - 04:34 AM

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On whose part? I agree if you're referring to the law enforcement side.


No I'm talking about potentially hers. A case like this doesnt normally get this out of controll with two seperate individuals (cop and judge) unless you have a huge bug up your ass.
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#85 of 92 OFFLINE   D. Scott MacDonald

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Posted June 04 2003 - 05:04 AM

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Raging additude problem.

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On whose part? I agree if you're referring to the law enforcement side.

And what did the police officer do to indicate a raging attitude? All that he did was give her a ticket. He didn't arrest her, handcuff her, beat her with a club, or anything else. If you believe that her sentence was too harsh (as do I), then your problem should be with the judge.

I have known people whose attitude insure that they are treated in the worst possible way by everybody. Perhaps she would have not got a ticket if she were polite (maybe she was, but we don't know that). I do suspect that given the harsh sentence, it is very likely that she pissed off the judge. A little bit of respect goes a long way in court. Once again, maybe she was respectful, but it is possible that this whole situation was exaggerated by a raging attitude on her side.
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#86 of 92 OFFLINE   Matt Stryker

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Posted June 04 2003 - 05:21 AM

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From what I read, it seems that it is Legal to sell them, and it is Legal to install and use them. The only illegal part is to use them when you are driving on the road. The Cobra Eyes are used in show rooms and for displaying cars at car shows. This is why they are considered legal, but once you take the car on the road, that's another story.


Sounds similar to the regulations I read when I put Hella off-road lights on my Scout. Does anyone know if similar warnings are in place on aftermarket fog lights?

#87 of 92 OFFLINE   Lew Crippen

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Posted June 04 2003 - 05:35 AM

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Raging additude problem.
I’m with Tommy on this one, although Scott is correct in that we don’t know. I wrote in an earlier post that I’d like to read the court proceedings. Could be that the judge just is a wrong-headed guy and it could be that he dealt with a lack of respect in a harsh and arbitrary fashion.
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#88 of 92 OFFLINE   Glenn Overholt

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Posted June 04 2003 - 05:50 AM

Her attitude might have gotten her the ticket too. When I initially read the article and figured that 'she' had a buzz cut, I tried to look at it from the cop's standpoint, and her overly polite reply may have been taken by the officer as 'is she mocking me?'

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#89 of 92 OFFLINE   Jared_B

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Posted June 04 2003 - 05:58 AM

http://www.leg.wa.go....&chapter=46.37

Here are the actual laws for the state of Washington.

I read through some of them, and found nothing that specifies the legality of blue lights on non-emergency or non-law enforcement vehicles.

#90 of 92 OFFLINE   David-S

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Posted June 04 2003 - 07:01 AM

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Sounds similar to the regulations I read when I put Hella off-road lights on my Scout. Does anyone know if similar warnings are in place on aftermarket fog lights?


Usually, and the "aftermarket" LED brake kits etc... and the fake "HID" bulb kits... sigh...

#91 of 92 OFFLINE   Joel Mack

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Posted June 04 2003 - 07:21 AM

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And what did the police officer do to indicate a raging attitude? All that he did was give her a ticket. He didn't arrest her, handcuff her, beat her with a club, or anything else. If you believe that her sentence was too harsh (as do I), then your problem should be with the judge.


I was actually referring to the judge when I said that. I should have been more clear. Sorry.

#92 of 92 OFFLINE   Henry Carmona

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Posted June 04 2003 - 08:11 AM

"When I initially read the article and figured that 'she' had a buzz cut, I tried to look at it from the cop's standpoint"

OK, some of you old guys need glasses Posted Image

Again, its a SHE, not a HE.
Second, she doesnt have a "buzz cut", its up in a pony tail, helloooo Posted Image
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