When will the first Buffy S4 reviews come out? (1 Viewer)

Blu · May 29, 2003

Just curious! I love this series but never saw it until I started to get it on DVD!

Adam_ME · May 29, 2003

I saw one at DVDTalk a couple weeks ago, although it was incomplete since Fox only sent out the 1st and 6th discs in the set. Apparently they're still removing the "Previously on Buffy" intros which gives me yet another reason to stick with the R2 version.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=6318

Michael Reuben · May 29, 2003

I just bought the set from a local retailer who shall remain nameless. But the viewing will probably be stretched across several weeks or months.

One interesting detail: The Season 4 set contains a separate insert reproducing the statement from Joss Whedon about the AR that Jeff Kleist posted here last month. So I guess both Whedon and Fox wanted there to be no question about the 4:3 format.

The one thing I can confirm is that the "previously on" intros have once again been omitted.

M.

Jeremy Conrad · May 29, 2003

although it was incomplete since Fox only sent out the 1st and 6th discs in the set.

That's how FOX used to do it all the time. Recently they sent out complete sets for a couple TV releases, but now it looks like it's back to discs 1 and 6.

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Adam_ME · May 29, 2003

That's how FOX used to do it all the time. Recently they sent out complete sets for a couple TV releases, but now it looks like it's back to discs 1 and 6.

I hope they don't do this a year from now when the R1 Season 6 set is released. There's a ton of extras(not to mention the much-heralded musical episode) on Discs 2 & 3.

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Blu · May 29, 2003

Will S5 be out this year or in early 04?

Adam Tyner · May 29, 2003

I was the fella who wrote the review for DVD Talk. If Fox only planned on sending out two discs from the set, they really should've gone with discs 3 and 6, which have the bulk of the extras. I wouldn't have bothered requesting the set if I'd known in advance it would be incomplete. (The Dark Angel set I was sent from Fox a week or two earlier included all six discs.)

Michael Reuben · May 29, 2003

Will S5 be out this year or in early 04?

This year, according to an insert in the season 4 set. But it doesn't say what month.

M.

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Dan Rudolph · May 29, 2003

Adam, they aren't removing the previously on Buffy intros. They aren't on the masters. They just aren't adding them back on.

Joel C · May 29, 2003

All I gotta say is they better include the "Previously" from "The Gift." If they do not, all will die. ALL WILL DIE!

Adam_ME · May 29, 2003

They aren't on the masters. They just aren't adding them back on.

Alright, then why not add them back on? Call me a purist, but the "Previously on" intros are part of the episodes. If people are bothered by them, they could include a feature to turn them off.

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Jeff Kleist · May 29, 2003

Adam, because it's very expensive for all the processing time to get/capture/replicate the edits.

The High Priest only reviews full sets, and probably won't be able to get his hands on it for a bit longer.

Robert Ringwald · May 29, 2003

are you sure they're not on the masters? the 'previously' segments are made by mutant enemy, and not by WB, so I would assume they are cut off. You can tell that the music is still there for a few episodes where it would have ended on the "previously" segment.

Jeff Kleist · May 29, 2003

The "previously" segments are handled by a totally different editing crew than the main episodes, and the show is scored to lead in from the 'previously". All shows work like this.

Paul_Stachniak · May 29, 2003

Jeff, you think someone might be a little clever at Fox and remove the 'previously' segments from the second season of '24'. From what I remember, they didn't mix into the episode's score, rather there was a transitional "woosh" sound effect in the surrounds.

Sorry to get Off Topic like this.

Jeff Kleist · May 29, 2003

OK, I don't think I'm being clear here

Fox is using the MASTER MASTER tapes

AKA what is run off when the editor of the ep is finished. He does not do the "previously on" segments, nor do his tapes include them. The "previously" segments are done later by a different editor, and added on when they make the BROADCAST master. Off the top of my head, the masters that are made for Buffy

Master Master tape (4:3)(probably HD res nowadays)
NTSC Broadcast master

Created later
PAL Broadcast Master
Master Master tape (16:9)

For example. OMWF's Emmy screener is sourced from the NTSC broadcast master, but the eventual US set will be sourced from the MASTER master.

I hope Fox has been watching, and will include the "The Gift" "previously"

Paul_Stachniak · May 29, 2003

My bad, Jeff. Thanks for clearing that up.

Blu · Jun 8, 2003

I got my set Thursday!
A local B&M happened to have it out!

Man am I enjoying this set/series!!!!
I've never watched it while it was on weekly, much like Babylon 5, Angel, etc.

But am I glad I'm seeing it now!

This is a solid set.

Matthew Chmiel · Jun 8, 2003

All I gotta say is they better include the "Previously" from "The Gift." If they do not, all will die. ALL WILL DIE!

I'd also like the "Previously" from Bargaining.

I'll be picking up the set on Tuesday, and since it is summer break, I'll be able to watch all 22 episodes in a 2 day period.

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Dan Rudolph · Jun 8, 2003

Matthew, come on. You can do it in one day. I dare you.

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