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What percentage of list price should I pay?


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#1 of 17 OFFLINE   Alex_C

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Posted May 15 2003 - 11:06 AM

Someone said I should pay 15% less than the list price. But I've seen other people get more off or even less. I'd like to go into the retailer and say, "This is what I'll give you" and not have to guess what a good price is for him.

Any buying tips?


Oh, and does anyone know list on the Deftech 2006's, with the 2300 center and bpx2 rears?



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#2 of 17 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted May 15 2003 - 01:50 PM

Also depends on what you are buying, and if it's one of those high end snob shops, or a generic retailer like the Good Guys, Circuit City, etc.

As a rule, I will not buy a piece of gear unless I can get at least 10% off.

I have found that the *average* discount I've been able to get, is about 20%. But if you build a little rapport with the salesperson, and if it's an older piece of equipment (but still current model, just been out a while), I've been able to get up to 40% off.
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#3 of 17 OFFLINE   Alex_C

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Posted May 15 2003 - 11:06 PM

Wow! 40%!
I don't thing what I want is old. I'm looked at the DefTech BP2006 setup or the Klipsch RF35 setup.

I'm buying from a small stereo shop. You think they'll laugh at me if I ask for 30% off??


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Posted May 15 2003 - 11:24 PM

"You think they'll laugh at me if I ask for 30% off?"


I know I would. You get what you pay for.

Don't you think it's worth paying for the time and effort spent with you making sure you are buying the thing you are going to be happiest with. Yeesh, salesman need to eat too.

If I can get them to eat the tax I'm happy, and know when I come back to do business again I'll get first rate treatment. Low ballers get no respect, and crappy service after the sale. You're just not paying for the product. Don't forget, most of these guys work on commission -- and you're cutting into their paycheck.

If you are doing the Circuit City or Best Buy thing -- I think 15% is appropriate.
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Posted May 16 2003 - 02:10 AM

The reason I'm asking is because the speakers I want are out of my price range. I won't be able to buy them unless they are discounted. If I had the money, it wouldn't be much an issue.

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Posted May 16 2003 - 02:41 AM

I understand, I've been in that situation myself.
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#7 of 17 OFFLINE   Alex_C

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Posted May 16 2003 - 03:12 AM

The dealer will only take off 15%. No speakers for me, I guess.

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Posted May 16 2003 - 03:20 AM

Think in stages. Pick up the 2006's now, and hold off on the surrounds until you have the money.
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Posted May 16 2003 - 07:38 AM

Dean,

What are you looking to upgrade from? There are good speakers in a wide price range. People here might have some suggestions that will make you happy.

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Posted May 16 2003 - 08:17 AM

15% off for Def Tech in a store is pretty good. I've gotten up to 20% off of their stuff, but from an unauthorized dealer.

Personally though, I don't believe in buying speakers with subs in them. The constructive/destructive interference between the two really messes with the sound you can get in your room. I much prefer "traditional" mains with a separate, moveable, sub. I had BP-20's and BP-30's for years, and really liked them alot.
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#11 of 17 OFFLINE   Alex_C

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Posted May 16 2003 - 09:19 AM

Yea, but I love the center channel. I haven't found one like it anywhere. I'm also looking at Klipsch. I'm going to re-audition RF-35 this weekend.

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Posted May 16 2003 - 12:46 PM

I used a CLR 2000 for quite a few years. Very nice center channel... Posted Image
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Posted May 16 2003 - 01:21 PM

Now that I think about it, the only real reason I like the DefTech's so much is because of the center. I like it more subdued without a lot of highs. I haven't been able to find one like it anywhere. However, I'm still auditioning. I'll be going out tomorrow to look at some more stuff.

If you know of any other centers I should listen to let me know. Perhaps, I'll need to spend a little extra to get a better center with whatever system I get.

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Posted May 16 2003 - 01:22 PM

Kevin:

Did the 2000 have the sub built into the center speaker like with the 2300? That rules!

Ever heard any others like it?

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Posted May 17 2003 - 09:41 AM

No, the 2000 just has the dual 6.5 mids/woofers, and the 1" tweeter.
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#16 of 17 OFFLINE   John F. Palacio

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Posted May 18 2003 - 03:28 AM

I think discounts depend several factors like (but not limited to):

1- Brand (some have higher markups and therefore dealer can afford to discount more)

2- Dealer and location (Dealers have varying overheads and so their profit margins vary)

3- Your ability to sound convincing. In other words, to convey to the salesperson that if you get a good deal you will buy the item from them.

4- Manufacturer's policies. (Some frown on discounts or on discounts exceeding a certain amount) B&W comes to mind.
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Posted May 18 2003 - 09:40 AM

I had a dealer once at the Good Guys give me 20% off once on a set of Energies. I knew what I wanted when I walked in the store, didn't make him hook them up, didn't waste his time by listening to 30 min of CDs and DVDs, etc. He told me after we closed the deal, that he wouldn't normally give that much off, but because I didn't waste his time, bingo. FWIW. Posted Image
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