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#1 of 14 ONLINE   JohnS

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Posted April 16 2003 - 09:48 PM

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In other news, we have tentative word that Universal has delayed their expected DVD releases of Weird Science and Sixteen Candles (which had been due on 4/1) indefinitely. There's no official word as to why, but we've heard rumors that there may be plans for more elaborate releases in the future. We'll update you when we know more.

This is GOOD & BAD news

The good news is, if they are canceling them for bigger editions, then by all means wait till you can get a better DVD out.

They really should have 2 commentaries on Weird Science.

1. John Hughes(even though he was a bit dry and boring on his previous one)

2. REUNION COMMENTARY with Anthony Michael Hall, Kelly Labrock and Ilan Mitchell-Smith and Bill Paxton


A commentary on 16 Candles would be nice with John Hughes, Molly Ringwald and Character commentary by Long Duk Dong

P.S. please excuse the misspelling of candles

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#2 of 14 OFFLINE   alan halvorson

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Posted April 16 2003 - 10:13 PM

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#3 of 14 OFFLINE   David Allum

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Posted April 16 2003 - 11:09 PM

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#4 of 14 OFFLINE   David Lambert

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Posted April 16 2003 - 11:33 PM

Basically, the fact that Universal may be sold in the near future means that certain of their catalog assets have been put on hold. They aren't going to release anything - including the Hughes films and season sets of TV shows - that might devalue them in the eyes of a potential buyer who could reap the profits of such a release after a corporate takeover is complete.

Among the potential buyers that the news has reported are NBC Studios, Viacom, MGM, and the recently-resigned Barry Diller.

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#5 of 14 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted April 16 2003 - 11:39 PM

So we were lucky to get BTTF out at all then?

I dunno, in between licencing their titles to Columbia for overseas markets (which only expired last year and was given as the reason for holding back on catalogue titles) and the potential sale now (given as the reason for holding back on catalogue titles) they seem to be harming their current cashflow in favour of undetermined future income.
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#6 of 14 OFFLINE   oscar_merkx

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Posted April 16 2003 - 11:43 PM

this certainly is very interesting news indeed. Let's hope that when Weird Science & 16 Candles come out, they will be super duper SE

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#7 of 14 OFFLINE   Andy_MT

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Posted April 17 2003 - 12:27 AM

MGM ? i thought they didn't have a pot to piff in, let alone buy out another studio. might be good news though; perhaps cheap & more catalogue titles

#8 of 14 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted April 17 2003 - 12:41 AM

MGM has been reported - see the links in this post for further information. But I too believe that MGM was either up for sale, or close to being put on the market recently. I don't know if their situation has changed, but it's worth noting Die Another Day was a co-production with Fox, and time's must be hard if you're willing to share income on your biggest money maker.

As for Universal, David's suggestion (or maybe hard information) makes sense from a business standpoint, but I have little time for most "business logic" - holding off on products (and thus reducing income) while your parent company is bleeding money (mainly from write-offs and interest payments) sounds OK in the short term, but should the negotiations take longer is it really in Vivendi-Universal's interests?

It seems to me that Universal has been holding off on a lot of products for the past few years, and has never been able to run at it's full earning potential. Posted Image
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#9 of 14 OFFLINE   David Lambert

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Posted April 17 2003 - 01:50 AM

James, I must say that there is a lot of insight in your last sentence. At least in my point of view.

As for suggestion/hard info: a little of both, but not based on anything that isn't public and putting two and two together. Thanks for putting that link in there; I was in too much a hurry earlier to go looking for it.

As for BTTF, I believe that the decisions I'm talking about happened after that release. If you see this Jan. 31 post where Walt Riarson first reports that Weird Science was delayed indefinately, then that is probably the timeframe you can expect the decisions to start to have been made.

Note that on Jan. 24th there was a meeting between Vivendi Universal CEO Jean-René Fourtou and the then-CEO of their "Vivendi Universal Entertainment (VUE) co-operative venture" (since May 2002) (also CEO of the USA Interactive (USAi) division), Barry Diller. They discussed "entertainment assets", and issued this statement afterward:
"We met yesterday in New York with the Management Committee of Universal Entertainment and discussed a range of issues regarding our Entertainment assets. We reviewed the performance of all the divisions for 2002, and approved the operating budgets for 2003.
"We have previously said we are each desirous of renegotiating various aspects of the VUE Joint Venture. These discussions, cordial and collegial, continue.
"In the interim, no changes in the operating structure or reporting responsibilities are contemplated...
There was a bit more rhetoric about responsibility to shareholders and that sort of stuff, but you get the drift. They were discussing entertainment assets and whether or not anything should be changed with their usage.

By 2/4 they had sold Canal+ Technologies to Thompson, and within 24 hours were denying that the rest of Canal+ was up for sale.

On 2/6 Vivendi Universal was reporting their financial results "for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2002" and nowhere mentioned BTTF! Posted Image As you can see in this PDF file, they state that "Universal Pictures Group revenues decreased 8% principally due to fewer video releases...In home video, 2002 releases included [i]The Scorpian King, E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial 20th Anniversary Edition, compared to 2001..." (continues to name off several 2001 home video releases that resulted in more overal revenue).

On Feb 12 Vivendi Universal had decided to sell off 28 million warrants of Barry Diller's USAi division.

On Mar 19, Barry Diller resigned his "temporary" position as CEO of VUE.

Afterward, Barry Diller has started a lawsuit against Vivendi Universal in regards to VUE and USAi, in regards to which Vivendi Universal just responded today (Apr. 17th) and stated that it is "without merit". In the meantime, Mr. Diller is also hedging his bets, it seems. According to this article, which described his resignation, the reporter stats that "Mr Diller himself is reported to be interested in bidding for Universal Studios." This sentiment is shared in other reports as well, with no more or less amount of detail.

There's more interesting factoids about this company. But I think you guys have enough "light reading" and info to digest for now! Posted Image

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#10 of 14 OFFLINE   James Reader

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Posted April 17 2003 - 03:29 AM

Wow David, and I thought I was obsessive about Universal (you may have picked up from my posting history I have a long standing love/hate relationship with Universal UK).
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Posted April 17 2003 - 03:37 AM

Not obsessive about anything, just fond of research! Posted Image

(That's how I got to be a "know-it-all" :wink: )

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Posted April 17 2003 - 06:00 AM

There was a report posted on AICN a couple weeks ago that said USA Network is supposedly making a tv movie sequel to 16 Candles, with both Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall (star of their Dead Zone series) involved. I wonder if this has any connection to the delay of the original film's DVD release. Maybe they want to coincide the release of the DVD with the premiere of the sequel movie to help promote each other.

Here's AICN's story on it:

http://www.aintitcoo...ay.cgi?id=14735

#13 of 14 OFFLINE   David Lambert

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Posted April 17 2003 - 06:30 AM

Well, and it's obvious that the right time to release the Battlestar Galactica box set would be at the same time the remake (excuse me, "re-imagined" Posted Image ) miniseries comes out toward the end of this year.

However, when's the right time to release Hulk season sets? When the new film hits, right?

But are we getting season sets? Nope...just a token "pilot telefilm with bonus Season 2 episode" release on one disc. Why is that, I wonder?

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#14 of 14 OFFLINE   Jesse Skeen

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Posted April 17 2003 - 06:38 AM

They should bring back the DISCOVISION label!!
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