Ricky T
Supporting Actor
- Joined
- Oct 28, 1999
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My new Aragon Stage One came four days ago. I got the black version (actually very dark grey) because the silver was back ordered 2-4+ more weeks and all my other gear is black. The blue lights look very cool. Compared to the Aragon Soundstage, the Stage One has more features such as component video switching, 7.1 modes (such as THX Ultra2, dts-es discerete and matrix, dd-ex, dts-neo, and dpl2--5.1 only). Set up is more complicated, probably because of these extra features and THX setups, as well as the Pronto Neo remote.
My system is:
Speakers:
NHT 3.3 mains
NHT Audiocenter 2
NHT 1.5 sides
NHT Superzero rears
NHT SW3P passive rear/LFE subs (2)
Equipment:
Aragon Stage One
Rogue Magnum 66 Tube Preamp
Parasound 2200II 250x2 Amps (2)
Parasound 806 Amp (sides, rears, 1 sub)
Parasound CDC-1500 CD Carousel
Panasonic RP91 DVD
I had the Aragon Soundstage about 6 weeks before the Stage One. Before the Aragon, I had the Lexicon MC1 for about 14 months, and the Onkyo 989 about 8 months before that. Before the Onkyo, I had....well, let's just say my wife tells our friends that our dining room was a UPS shipping outlet for over a year I've had the Rogue with HT bypass for about 10 months (for 2 channel only). I've had the Parasound amps about a year, and before that a combination of Citation 7.1/5.1 amps for ~ 2 years. Before the Citations...well, my house was a UPS shipping outlet
The decision the past month has been between an upgraded Aragon Soundstage and a new Stage One. I went with the Stage One because it has THX Ultra2 processing, I got a pretty good deal, and I don't have to wait long. I think the Stage One will rule my HT for at least as long as the MC1 did I'd have to pony up serious big bucks, $4500+, to get the next step up....Meridan 568v2, Lexicon MC8, Theta Casablanca II.
Anyway, so far listening to the Stage One, I would say the sound for DVDs is pretty close to the Soundstage....lots of resolution/detail but never harsh or bright. Bass actually might be a little stronger, believe it or not.
Initial mixed feelings on Ultra2 and THX. On Gladiator, the 7.1 Ultra2 sounds as good as the discrete 6.1 dts track. Not sure yet how much improvement Ultra2 imparts on standard 5.1 tracks in the rear soundstage. I think an improvement is there, but more hit or miss, and not as evident as 5.1 Logic7....Lexicon still rules the game for the rear soundfield. THX processing, even with Re-Equalization turned off, seems to alter the sonics a little. Maybe warm it up or tame it a little. Not sure if this is a good thing yet, as I loved the pure sonics, slam, detail produced by the Aragon Soundstage.
DPL2 music/panaroma, limited to 5.1, might sound better than DTS-Neo in 7.1 (6.1 with dual mono rear centers).
The Pronto Neo remote is easy to use, has good menus...but my wife and I will continue to use our trustworthing, non touch screen, Marantz RC2000II for everyday use.
Some 2 channel music comparisons. On day one, I originally thought the Stage One was closer to my Rogue. After tonight, I was wrong. The Rogue produces a wider, deeper soundstage with seemingly bigger sound. On Soundstage vs Stage One for 2 channel, the Soundstage probably had better imaging capabilities while the Stage One has a little more detail and warmth. The adjustable DPL2-Music mode adds more spaciousness to 2 channel, albeit with a slightly different sound. But DPL2 still does not match the Rogue's soundstage that seems to go around my head and as high as my center speaker. I had to turn the prepro off to make myself believe that no subs or other speakers are on.
If I had a 5.1 setup, I would easily just keep the Soundstage rather than than pay $1200-1500 more for the Stage One, or $980 to upgrade the Soundstage to 7.1 with component video.
A couple of buddies are coming over next week to hang out. Hopefully, they bring a copy of CD tracks that they have memorized...then we can do the same sequence: aragon 2 channel, aragon DPL2, rogue 2 channel. All leveled matched to the exact volume on the first note of the song (I usually use 80dB).
My system is:
Speakers:
NHT 3.3 mains
NHT Audiocenter 2
NHT 1.5 sides
NHT Superzero rears
NHT SW3P passive rear/LFE subs (2)
Equipment:
Aragon Stage One
Rogue Magnum 66 Tube Preamp
Parasound 2200II 250x2 Amps (2)
Parasound 806 Amp (sides, rears, 1 sub)
Parasound CDC-1500 CD Carousel
Panasonic RP91 DVD
I had the Aragon Soundstage about 6 weeks before the Stage One. Before the Aragon, I had the Lexicon MC1 for about 14 months, and the Onkyo 989 about 8 months before that. Before the Onkyo, I had....well, let's just say my wife tells our friends that our dining room was a UPS shipping outlet for over a year I've had the Rogue with HT bypass for about 10 months (for 2 channel only). I've had the Parasound amps about a year, and before that a combination of Citation 7.1/5.1 amps for ~ 2 years. Before the Citations...well, my house was a UPS shipping outlet
The decision the past month has been between an upgraded Aragon Soundstage and a new Stage One. I went with the Stage One because it has THX Ultra2 processing, I got a pretty good deal, and I don't have to wait long. I think the Stage One will rule my HT for at least as long as the MC1 did I'd have to pony up serious big bucks, $4500+, to get the next step up....Meridan 568v2, Lexicon MC8, Theta Casablanca II.
Anyway, so far listening to the Stage One, I would say the sound for DVDs is pretty close to the Soundstage....lots of resolution/detail but never harsh or bright. Bass actually might be a little stronger, believe it or not.
Initial mixed feelings on Ultra2 and THX. On Gladiator, the 7.1 Ultra2 sounds as good as the discrete 6.1 dts track. Not sure yet how much improvement Ultra2 imparts on standard 5.1 tracks in the rear soundstage. I think an improvement is there, but more hit or miss, and not as evident as 5.1 Logic7....Lexicon still rules the game for the rear soundfield. THX processing, even with Re-Equalization turned off, seems to alter the sonics a little. Maybe warm it up or tame it a little. Not sure if this is a good thing yet, as I loved the pure sonics, slam, detail produced by the Aragon Soundstage.
DPL2 music/panaroma, limited to 5.1, might sound better than DTS-Neo in 7.1 (6.1 with dual mono rear centers).
The Pronto Neo remote is easy to use, has good menus...but my wife and I will continue to use our trustworthing, non touch screen, Marantz RC2000II for everyday use.
Some 2 channel music comparisons. On day one, I originally thought the Stage One was closer to my Rogue. After tonight, I was wrong. The Rogue produces a wider, deeper soundstage with seemingly bigger sound. On Soundstage vs Stage One for 2 channel, the Soundstage probably had better imaging capabilities while the Stage One has a little more detail and warmth. The adjustable DPL2-Music mode adds more spaciousness to 2 channel, albeit with a slightly different sound. But DPL2 still does not match the Rogue's soundstage that seems to go around my head and as high as my center speaker. I had to turn the prepro off to make myself believe that no subs or other speakers are on.
If I had a 5.1 setup, I would easily just keep the Soundstage rather than than pay $1200-1500 more for the Stage One, or $980 to upgrade the Soundstage to 7.1 with component video.
A couple of buddies are coming over next week to hang out. Hopefully, they bring a copy of CD tracks that they have memorized...then we can do the same sequence: aragon 2 channel, aragon DPL2, rogue 2 channel. All leveled matched to the exact volume on the first note of the song (I usually use 80dB).