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Paradigm Servo-15 to SVS 20-39 PC+


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#1 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron Alcasid

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Posted March 22 2003 - 02:20 AM

I currently own a Paradigm Servo-15 and I have been happy with it. Would moving to an SVS 20-39 PC+ be an upgrade or a cross grade?

#2 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron_L

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Posted March 22 2003 - 07:19 AM

Servo-15 is a mighty fine sub.

Stick with it!

#3 of 20 OFFLINE   Mike Sloan

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Posted March 22 2003 - 10:09 AM

Now..if you said (2)20-39PC+ you would have something!
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#4 of 20 OFFLINE   Edward J M

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Posted March 22 2003 - 10:17 AM

You could probably sell your Servo 15, buy the 20-39PC+, and pocket $400 along the way.

SVS offers a 45 day no questions asked return policy. All you risk is return shipping - about $35. Why don't you take a chance, buy the SVS, compare it to the Servo 15, and find out for yourself?

If you discover the SVS to be at least the performance equal of the Servo 15 - I guess you'll have your answer.

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#5 of 20 OFFLINE   Parker Clack

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Posted March 23 2003 - 02:23 AM

I agree with Ed. Get the 39PC+ and give it a side by side comparison.

You can always email Tom or Ron and ask them what they would recommend.

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#6 of 20 OFFLINE   Steve Morgan

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Posted March 23 2003 - 02:00 PM

Ron,
When SVS first came out with the 20-39 not the + I bought one. I have a Servo 15. After 6 months I sold the SVS. It is a very good sub but without the plus I preferred the Servo. I guess I just like a sealed sub. Anyway thats my 2 cents.
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#7 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron_L

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Posted March 24 2003 - 02:21 AM

i don't think it's just the sealed enclosure.

The servo 15's power capacity outnumbers the SVS as well.

#8 of 20 OFFLINE   Daniel Mai

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Posted March 24 2003 - 03:48 AM

I hope there's more input as I'm thinking about going from 20-39PC (with new current PCi driver) to the Servo-15. I got to audition it and was very impressed with how fast it moves for music. I also really like the sealed enclosure.

#9 of 20 OFFLINE   Jack Gilvey

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Posted March 24 2003 - 04:43 AM

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The servo 15's power capacity outnumbers the SVS as well.

Given the entirely different designs, what conclusion can you possibly draw from this?
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#10 of 20 OFFLINE   MikeCooper

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Posted March 24 2003 - 06:05 AM

I think you should definetely stick with the Servo-15. It is indeed a mighty fine sub. There's just no replacing servo technology.

#11 of 20 OFFLINE   Terry St

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Posted March 24 2003 - 06:11 AM

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You could probably sell your Servo 15, buy the 20-39PC+, and pocket $400 along the way.

This may not be true, depending on where you live. Be very mindfull of shipping fees and import duties/taxes, etc., especially if you're in Canada. Also, if you are in Canada, be sure to sell your Servo-15 on a predominantly American market like ebay or Audiogon. (as opposed to the local newspaper) On such sites, used Servo-15's frequently sell for more than what they cost brand-new in Canada. (Paradigm products are substantially cheaper in Canada.)

You might also consider a second Servo-15 if you are in Canada or are close enough to the border to shop there. At Canadian prices the Servo-15 is in direct competition with SVS for bang-for-buck performance. However, if you can't shop in Canada you should definately give the SVS a try.

#12 of 20 OFFLINE   Jack Gilvey

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Posted March 24 2003 - 06:24 AM

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There's just no replacing servo technology.
Unless the design doesn't need it in the first place.
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#13 of 20 OFFLINE   Chip E

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Posted March 24 2003 - 06:34 AM

What is servo technology and what applications is it best suited for ?
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#14 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron Alcasid

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Posted March 24 2003 - 09:45 AM

Maybe dual CS-Ultras would be a more substantial upgrade path. I'll stick with Servo-15 for now.

#15 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron_L

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Posted March 24 2003 - 11:25 AM

Lemme guess Jack,


your a avid supporter of SVS?

#16 of 20 OFFLINE   Jack Gilvey

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Posted March 24 2003 - 11:38 AM

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your a avid supporter of SVS?

Incorrect, try a search. I am an avid supporter of correct information, though, so would be interested in your answer to my question. How can you possibly compare "power capacity" between a two completely different drivers/alignments/loadings?
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#17 of 20 OFFLINE   Ron_L

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Posted March 24 2003 - 12:05 PM

It's been my experience that subs in sealed enclosures can handle more power than say a vented one.

SVS is unique in its design, but personally I would rather have the servo 15 due to it's larger power handling.

Now, that is my opinion there Jack.


Take it or leave it.

#18 of 20 OFFLINE   Jack Gilvey

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Posted March 24 2003 - 12:52 PM

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It's been my experience that subs in sealed enclosures can handle more power than say a vented one.

This is a generalization and a mostly incorrect one. Around Fb, a vented sub can likely handle much more power than an equivalent sealed.

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SVS is unique in its design, but personally I would rather have the servo 15 due to it's larger power handling.

Well, it's a reflex sub, so the power handling comments above apply to the SVS. Applying the term "power handling" the Servo15 doesn't really make sense since the amp is built-in. It needs the servo mechanism to avoid the skyrocketing distortion that would result without it. What matters is not "power handling" but clean SPL...I'd go with the reflex.

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Now, that is my opinion there Jack.


Take it or leave it.

Try this for facts:

http://www.hometheat....ayporting.html
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#19 of 20 OFFLINE   David Gadd

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Posted March 24 2003 - 12:53 PM

Ron:

Why would you care in the least about input power handling? I care about power OUTPUT, i.e. how loud the sub is in the room.

Input power handling and actual sound output are not related in the way you seem to assume (that more is better). For example, if you take a driver in a 2 cubic foot sealed box and it takes 200 watts to produce 110 dB at say 30 Hz (all assumptions as an example), typically if you placed that same driver in a 1 cubic box it would take, say 300 watts to produce 110 dB at 30 Hz. Explain to me how you have gained anything (except bragging rights to a "monster 300 (1000 or 3000) watt amp."

To use a metaphor, you seem to be impressed with the 800 Hp semi assuming it to be faster or better than a 100 Hp motorcycle, when its only different (at best).

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Posted March 24 2003 - 03:17 PM

I'd say give it a listen and compare. I love sealed subwoofers myself, but I have heard a pair of SVS subwoofers and it sounded amazing. I loved the sound as much or more than my sealed Mirage BPS-400.
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