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What are the differences between The Rock and the Criterion Edition


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#1 of 28 OFFLINE   George_W_K

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Posted March 19 2003 - 03:09 PM

Is the picture a better transfer on the Criterion Edition? Is the sound better? Are there added scenes like in "Armageddon"?

Thanks for the info!

#2 of 28 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted March 19 2003 - 03:28 PM

Same cut of the film, but the Criterion edition is a better transfer and is anamorphic. It's the only one to get.

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#3 of 28 OFFLINE   Bill J

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Posted March 19 2003 - 04:12 PM

Yes, I have both versions and the Criterion is superior in every way.

#4 of 28 OFFLINE   Clinton C

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Posted March 19 2003 - 05:19 PM

if you have the money the Criterion is the only way to go

#5 of 28 OFFLINE   Reagan

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Posted March 20 2003 - 02:08 AM

Not only is the picture better, but the commentary track is one of the better ones I've ever heard.

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#6 of 28 OFFLINE   Michael Harris

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Posted March 20 2003 - 07:41 AM

Slightly off topic but I purchased Criterion's version of The Rock only to find that it had a manufacturing flaw. Due to my lack of a receipt and it was over 30 days before I got to watching it I could not return it. BUT, I email Criterion and the allowed me to send it directly to them and replace it. Great personal service.

Oh, as for the film itself, great picture, sound, and commentary. The supplement disk is a bit weak but the bit by an ex-SEAL on how Hollywood typess handle guns incorrectly was entertaining.

#7 of 28 OFFLINE   George_W_K

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Posted March 20 2003 - 08:46 AM

Wow! It's unanymous! I guess when I get my paycheck, the Criterion is the way to go. Only a couple of more movies and I won't have to bring out my LD player anymore.

Thanks for all of the replies, guys,
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#8 of 28 OFFLINE   Tim Glover

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Posted March 20 2003 - 03:45 PM

The CC of The Rock has a gorgeous transfer and terrific Dolby Digital audio. Posted Image

#9 of 28 OFFLINE   RobD

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Posted March 20 2003 - 04:10 PM

If you want to save some money and have a multiregion dvd player, the r2 special edition is the Criterion version (Even has Criterion's menu) and can be bought for £8 ($12).

#10 of 28 OFFLINE   kevin_asai

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Posted March 20 2003 - 04:26 PM

The Criterion Collection is the only good version for R1.

#11 of 28 OFFLINE   John Stockton

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Posted March 21 2003 - 11:41 AM

Is the Criterion Rock also free of EE??

#12 of 28 OFFLINE   Jeremy Allin

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Posted March 21 2003 - 01:12 PM

The supplements disc also has some great outtakes of Ed Harris. He is a very intense actor. Posted Image

#13 of 28 OFFLINE   Brett_B

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Posted March 22 2003 - 02:30 AM

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Are there added scenes like in "Armageddon"?
Off topic slightly, but there was actually a scene in Armageddon that was cut (edited) in the Criterion version. What is up with that?

#14 of 28 OFFLINE   Declan

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Posted March 22 2003 - 06:34 AM

which bit............ havent seen that show in ages
"So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed"

#15 of 28 OFFLINE   Jon Robertson

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Posted March 22 2003 - 06:48 AM

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Off topic slightly, but there was actually a scene in Armageddon that was cut (edited) in the Criterion version. What is up with that?
I'd imagine Michael Bay wanted it removed, like with the add-a-bit/remove-a-bit director's cut of Pearl Harbor.

What's on the disc is Michael Bay's preferred cut, so I'm happy with it.

#16 of 28 OFFLINE   Declan

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Posted March 22 2003 - 12:38 PM

well the Vista series Dir Cut of Pearl Harbour (not everyones favourite film, but I thoughly enjoyed it for many of the reasons it's hated for) is definitley my preference over the original cut (which i sold as soon as I got the Dir Cut) mainly for all the added gore and the Ben Affleck/Josh Hartnet commentry which is hilarious. Have to watch the technical commentary and the Michael Bay commentry, looking forward to when i have time to give them a listen.

Is it just me or does the DD5.1 seem a bit more powerful in the low end compared to the DTS.

The Criterion of the Rock has a weak DTS track compared to the mind blowing DD5.1....... but thats old news.

While were on the subject of Michael bay movies...Cant wait for Bad Boys 2.
"So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed"

#17 of 28 OFFLINE   Leon Liew

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Posted March 22 2003 - 05:59 PM

Declan

The DD5.1 is indeed more powerful in the low end compared
to the DTS.

#18 of 28 OFFLINE   Matt Stone

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Posted March 22 2003 - 09:22 PM

I concur with the others regarding the rather lackluster DTS track...
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#19 of 28 OFFLINE   Declan

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Posted March 23 2003 - 01:03 AM

It's not really THAT bad and actually there is better imaging on some scenes in the rears. But the low end does'nt go as LOW as it should on the DTS of Pearl Harbour. I noticed this on both the theatrical cut and Dir cut versions.
"So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed"

#20 of 28 OFFLINE   Scott_MacD

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Posted March 23 2003 - 02:22 AM

The Rock : Criterion has one of the finest film to tape transfers I have ever seen. Oodles of detail, little artifacting, and *ahem* rock solid.





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