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Future Classics - A Movie Tournament


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#1 of 1361 SteveGon

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Posted March 13 2003 - 10:13 AM

Welcome to my Future Classics Tournament.

What's it all about? Well, this tourney was inspired by a thread started over in Movies by John Kilduff (thanks, John!) on the supposed critical derision of films from the eighties - was that decade really a worse one for film than any other? How about the nineties? Anyway, imagine the world 2050. Which films of the last two decades or so will be considered classics? That's the gist of this tourney - it won't be about simply voting for your favorite film - you'll be expected to make a critical decision on which film in a particular matchup will truly stand the test of time.


The tournament is now over. Go away. Posted Image



The List

    [*][*]Abre los Ojos[*]The Abyss
    [*]The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
    [*]A.I.[*]Akira
    [*]Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
    [*]Aladdin
    [*]Aliens
    [*]Almost Famous
    [*]Amadeus
    [*]Amelie
    [*]American Beauty
    [*]American History X
    [*]American Pie
    [*]American Psycho
    [*]Apollo 13
    [*]Armageddon
    [*]Army of Darkness
    [*]Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery[*]Back to the Future[*]Batman
    [*]Beauty and the Beast
    [*]Beetlejuice
    [*]Being John Malkovich
    [*]A Better Tomorrow
    [*]Beverly Hills Cop
    [*]Big
    [*]The Big Lebowski
    [*]Billy Elliot
    [*]Black Hawk Down
    [*]Blade Runner
    [*]The Blair Witch Project
    [*]Blood Simple
    [*]Blue Velvet
    [*]Bram Stoker's Dracula
    [*]Braveheart
    [*]Brazil
    [*]The Breakfast Club
    [*]Breaking the Waves
    [*]A Bug's Life
    [*]Bull Durham
    [*]Casino
    [*]Cast Away
    [*]Catch Me If You Can
    [*]Chicago
    [*]Chicken Run
    [*]Cinema Paradiso
    [*]The City of Lost Children
    [*]The Commitments
    [*]Contact
    [*]The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    [*]Cool Runnings[*]Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon*****
    [*]Dances With Wolves
    [*]Dark City
    [*]Das Boot
    [*]The Devil's Backbone
    [*]Die Hard
    [*]Dirty Dancing
    [*]Donnie Darko
    [*]Do the Right Thing
    [*]Driving Miss Daisy
    [*]Eat Drink Man Woman
    [*]Election
    [*]The English Patient[*]E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial*****
    [*]Eyes Wide Shut
    [*]Falling Down
    [*]Fantasia 2000
    [*]Farewell My Concubine
    [*]Far from Heaven
    [*]Fargo
    [*]Fatal Attraction
    [*]Ferris Bueller's Day Off
    [*]Field of Dreams
    [*]Fight Club
    [*]A Fish Called Wanda
    [*]The Fly
    [*]Forrest Gump
    [*]48 Hrs.
    [*]Frailty
    [*]The Freshman
    [*]Fright Night
    [*]The Fugitive
    [*]Full Metal Jacket
    [*]eXistenZ
    [*]Galaxy Quest
    [*]George Washington
    [*]Gettysburg
    [*]Ghost
    [*]Ghostbusters
    [*]The Gift
    [*]Ginger Snaps
    [*]Glengarry Glen Ross
    [*]Glory[*]GoodFellas*****
    [*]Good Will Hunting
    [*]Grave of the Fireflies
    [*]Gremlins
    [*]Groundhog Day
    [*]Hannah and Her Sisters
    [*]Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
    [*]Heat
    [*]Hedwig and the Angry Inch
    [*]The Hitcher
    [*]Home Alone
    [*]The Hunt for Red October
    [*]Il Postino
    [*]Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
    [*]In the Mood for Love
    [*]Interview With the Vampire
    [*]The Insider
    [*]The Iron Giant
    [*]Jacob's Ladder
    [*]Jurassic Park
    [*]The Killer
    [*]The King of Comedy
    [*]Labyrinth
    [*]L.A. Confidential
    [*]Ladyhawke
    [*]La Femme Nikita
    [*]The Last of the Mohicans
    [*]The Last Starfighter
    [*]Lethal Weapon
    [*]License to Drive
    [*]Limbo
    [*]The Limey
    [*]The Lion King
    [*]The Little Mermaid
    [*]Little Shop of Horrors
    [*]Lone Star[*]The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring*****
    [*]The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
    [*]The Lost Boys
    [*]Lost Highway
    [*]Magnolia
    [*]Major League
    [*]The Man in the Moon
    [*]The Matrix
    [*]Memento
    [*]Men in Black
    [*]Microcosmos
    [*]Midnight Run
    [*]Miller's Crossing
    [*]Minority Report
    [*]Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters
    [*]Monsters, Inc.
    [*]The Mosquito Coast
    [*]Mulholland Dr.
    [*]My Neighbor Totoro
    [*]National Lampoon's Vacation
    [*]The Natural
    [*]The Nightmare Before Christmas
    [*]Ocean's Eleven
    [*]Office Space
    [*]The Others
    [*]Planes, Trains & Automobiles
    [*]Platoon
    [*]Pleasantville
    [*]Predator
    [*]Pretty Woman
    [*]Prince of Darkness
    [*]The Princess Bride
    [*]Princess Mononoke
    [*]The Professional
    [*]Pulp Fiction
    [*]The Quiet American
    [*]Rad
    [*]Rain Man
    [*]Raise the Red Lantern
    [*]Raising Arizona[*]Ran*****
    [*]The Red Violin
    [*]Regarding Henry
    [*]Requiem for a Dream
    [*]Reservoir Dogs
    [*]Return of the Jedi
    [*]The Right Stuff
    [*]Ringu
    [*]Road to Perdition
    [*]Robocop
    [*]Romancing the Stone
    [*]Roxanne
    [*]The Royal Tenenbaums
    [*]Runaway Train
    [*]Run Lola Run
    [*]Rushmore
    [*]Ruthless People
    [*]Safe
    [*]The Sandlot]
    [*]The Santa Clause
    [*]Saving Private Ryan
    [*]Scarface
    [*]Schindler's List
    [*]Scrooged
    [*]The Secret of Roan Inish
    [*]Se7en
    [*]Shakespeare in Love
    [*]Shallow Grave[*]The Shawshank Redemption*****
    [*]Shine
    [*]Shrek
    [*]The Silence of the Lambs
    [*]A Simple Plan
    [*]Sixteen Candles
    [*]The Sixth Sense
    [*]Sling Blade
    [*]Sneakers
    [*]Stand By Me
    [*]Starman
    [*]Starship Troopers
    [*]Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
    [*]Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
    [*]Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
    [*]Stir of Echoes
    [*]Stop Making Sense
    [*]Strictly Ballroom
    [*]The Sweet Hereafter
    [*]Talk to Her
    [*]Tenebrae[*]The Terminator*****
    [*]Terminator 2: Judgment Day
    [*]The Thin Red Line
    [*]This is Spinal Tap
    [*]Three Colors: Blue
    [*]Three Colors: Red
    [*]Three Colors: White
    [*]Titanic
    [*]Titus
    [*]To Live and Die in L.A.
    [*]Tombstone
    [*]Total Recall[*]Toy Story*****
    [*]Toy Story 2
    [*]Traffic
    [*]Trainspotting
    [*]Tron
    [*]True Lies
    [*]True Romance
    [*]Tucker: The Man and His Dream
    [*]12 Monkeys
    [*]Unforgiven[*]The Untouchables*****
    [*]The Usual Suspects
    [*]The Vanishing
    (1988)
    [*]Victor/Victoria
    [*]WarGames
    [*]We Were Soldiers
    [*]Who Framed Roger Rabbit
    [*]Wild at Heart
    [*]Wings of Desire
    [*]Witness
    [*]Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
    [*]Wonder Boys
    [*]Zapped!
    [*]Zelig


#2 of 1361 Jim_K

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Posted March 13 2003 - 10:37 AM

Just a suggestion (its your tourney)

I'd limit the years to 20 max. In my mind a worthy film over 20 years old is already a classic (i.e. Jaws, Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now, etc.)

I'll be back later with some nominations.
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#3 of 1361 Chris_Richard

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Posted March 13 2003 - 10:38 AM

I'll start it off with some personal favorites that should grow in stature over time:

Breaking the Waves
Nashville
Magnolia
Raise the Red Lantern
The Right Stuff

#4 of 1361 SteveGon

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Posted March 13 2003 - 10:44 AM

Quote:
I'd limit the years to 20 max. In my mind a worthy film over 20 years old is already a classic (i.e. Jaws, Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now, etc.)

Perhaps - can I get some more feedback on this? Should I limit this to 20 years? Or start with 1980 vs. 1975? Leave it as it is?

FWIW, while the films Jim mentioned are certainly eligible for this tourney, I'd really like to see more lists like the one Chris has. Posted Image

#5 of 1361 Rain

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Posted March 13 2003 - 10:45 AM

Nominate:

American Beauty
Fargo
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Being John Malkovich
Rushmore


Second:

Magnolia

I'm trying to stay very recent, as many films from the 70s and even 80s are already pretty much regarded as classics.

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." - Imagine by John Lennon

#6 of 1361 Walter Kittel

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:09 AM

If we are trying to predict future classics, then I'd limit it to films from the last 10 years or so, as many 70's and 80's films are already considered 'classics' by some viewers.

Nominate:

L.A. Confidential
Pulp Fiction
The Shawshank Redemption
Toy Story
Last of the Mohicans

- Walter.

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:10 AM

Keep in mind that if I change the rules, some noms may have to be thrown out...

#8 of 1361 Jim_K

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:22 AM

I'm limiting my picks to the last 10 years.

Nominate

Unforgiven
Casino
Heat
Twelve Monkeys
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

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#9 of 1361 Lew Crippen

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:24 AM

Nominate:

Eyes Wide Shut
In the Mood for Love
The Quiet American
Talk to Her
Do the Right Thing



Second:

The Right Stuff
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#10 of 1361 Jim_K

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:26 AM

I'll second

Pulp Fiction
Last of the Mohicans


I'd also second The Right Stuff but its 20 years old so I already consider it a classic.
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#11 of 1361 george kaplan

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Posted March 13 2003 - 11:50 AM

Well until there's a ruling, I'll only go back to 1990.

Nominate:

Groundhog Day
Beauty & the Beast
Galaxy Quest
The Fugitive
Monsters, Inc.

Second:

L.A. Confidential
Unforgiven
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Toy Story
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#12 of 1361 Bill J

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Posted March 13 2003 - 12:10 PM

I think 1990 to the present is more appropriate.

Nominate:
Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List
Memento
Gangs of New York
Black Hawk Down

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Posted March 13 2003 - 01:10 PM

I'll second

Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List
Black Hawk Down

Out of noms & 2nds
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#14 of 1361 Angelo.M

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Posted March 13 2003 - 01:35 PM


Second Raise the Red Lantern (already a classic, in my mind at least). Posted Image
Second American Beauty.
Second Fargo.
Second L.A. Confidential.
Second Pulp Fiction.

Nominate The Thin Red Line.
Nominate The Royal Tenenbaums.
Nominate Blue.
Nominate White.
Nominate Red.

Tell me that the triology counts as one nomination, and I'd be happy to send in a couple more noms...
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#15 of 1361 Mike Hutman

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Posted March 13 2003 - 01:49 PM

I'll nominate

The Silence Of The Lambs
Stand By Me
Dances With Wolves
Requiem For A Dream
GoodFellows

#16 of 1361 Rain

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Posted March 13 2003 - 01:56 PM

Second:

The Silence of the Lambs
Dances With Wolves

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." - Imagine by John Lennon

#17 of 1361 Elizabeth S

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Posted March 13 2003 - 02:07 PM

Nominate:

Sling Blade
Shallow Grave
The Usual Suspects

2 noms left, 5 seconds.

#18 of 1361 Bill J

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Posted March 13 2003 - 02:11 PM

Second:
The Thin Red Line

#19 of 1361 SteveGon

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Posted March 13 2003 - 02:22 PM

Okay, I've decided to go back only to 1982 - no films made in 1981 or before are eligible. Chris_Richard, I had to toss Nashville. Sorry.

Angelo: thanks for seconding Raise the Red Lantern. Posted Image I agree that it's a classic. Also, Pulp Fiction and L.A. Confidential were already seconded so you still have those seconds.

What, no nomination for The English Patient? The disdain for this film continues to confound me...

#20 of 1361 Bill J

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Posted March 13 2003 - 02:30 PM

Second:
Eyes Wide Shut