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#1 of 37 OFFLINE   Danny Tse

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Posted February 24 2003 - 09:50 AM

Read all about it....here.

Geez....kind of disappointed Sony didn't release more SACD-capable players. Maybe in their ES line??
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#2 of 37 OFFLINE   KeithH

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Posted February 24 2003 - 10:25 AM

Danny, thanks for sharing the news!

From the Sony press release:

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Leading this year's core line-up is the DVP-CX985V DVD changer, with 400-Disc Explorer™ library management system that offers multi-channel SACD playback, Precision Cinema Progressive™, 12 bit/108 MHz Video D/A Converter and MP3 playback. Movie lovers will treasure the crisp images and vivid picture quality Sony's proprietary progressive scan technology provides, and music lovers will enjoy the high-resolution reproduction of SACD multi-channel performance.


In addition, the unit's CD-R/RW and MP3 playback capabilities allow music lovers to listen to their favorite compressed audio files. The DVP-CX985V will be available in September for about $400.

Wow! I've been waiting for Sony to release an SACD megachanger. Very cool.

Also from the Sony press release:

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DVP-NC685V - Incorporating multi-channel SACD playback and Precision Cinema Progressive™, the 5-disc changer produces unsurpassed audio and video performance. The model also offers simple navigation and disc management with such features as 40-disc resume memory and picture navigation. It will be available in August for about $250.


It's about time Sony releases a replacement for the 'NC650V. Better late than never I sometimes say. Posted Image

I too am disappointed to see just a couple DVD/SACD players, but I like what Sony will be releasing, at least on paper. The prices look great too.

Now, is Sony going to release any new non-DVD SACD players?
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#3 of 37 OFFLINE   TimothyE

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Posted February 24 2003 - 10:26 AM

I wonder if these "superior" DVD players will finally be chroma bug free? Oh, why get my hopes up...

#4 of 37 OFFLINE   KeithH

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Posted February 24 2003 - 10:36 AM

Timothy, if Sony says the new players are going to be superior, then it must be true. Posted Image
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Posted February 24 2003 - 11:56 AM

I am sure this is an ignorant question, but what is a chroma bug?
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#6 of 37 OFFLINE   John Kotches

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Posted February 24 2003 - 03:18 PM

If you really want to know: Click here

So much for the "Mass Market phase", with SACD everywhere.
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#7 of 37 OFFLINE   Dan Hitchman

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Posted February 24 2003 - 06:00 PM

I hope the new ES line sports some impressively built SACD-only players with all-DSD-all-the-time DSP chips for adjustable digital bass management and time delay. With an industry-wide compatible digital link too. Everything, but the digital link has been hinted at.

SACD should be available as audio only devices on into the future in order to put all the extra effort into the AUDIO side of the chain.

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#8 of 37 OFFLINE   KeithH

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Posted February 24 2003 - 11:36 PM

Dan, absolutely. I couldn't have said it better myself. Posted Image Posted Image
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#9 of 37 OFFLINE   Lee Scoggins

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Posted February 25 2003 - 02:05 AM

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So much for the "Mass Market phase", with SACD everywhere.


What a $250 DVD/SACD player is not enough for you John?

And they release a multi-disc changer with Super Audio?

It seems very good to me. And the new 999ES is a killer product too. And we may see still more ES announcements...

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SACD should be available as audio only devices on into the future in order to put all the extra effort into the AUDIO side of the chain.


For audiophiles and other audio fans they have this in the ES line-the 999ES has terrific SACD playback. For mass market people expect both DVD and Audio options in one low-cost package. Posted Image
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#10 of 37 OFFLINE   John Kotches

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Posted February 25 2003 - 03:47 AM

Lee,

One player from Sony at the US$250 price point is not enough. After all, this is supposed to be mass market now.

The megachanger has a limited audience, and multi-channel SACD should have been included in its 300 disc predecessor that was announced at CEDIA 2002.

Not exactly a groundswell of support from the formats originator, with only 2 SACD capable players in the new lineup announcement.

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Posted February 25 2003 - 03:48 AM

A 400-disc capacity megachanger that plays CD, CD-R, MP3, progressive scan DVD video, and SACD; has an MSRP of $400; and will be available in time for the holidays? As a mass market move, Sony's announcement seems amazingly good to me. The company is a primarily a mass marketer after all. I use two of their CD-only megachangers (non-ES) now and haven't had any problems with them. Now if only there were 400 SACDs worth putting in the new machine. Posted Image
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#12 of 37 OFFLINE   Justin Lane

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Posted February 25 2003 - 05:52 AM

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Now, is Sony going to release any new non-DVD SACD players?


Maybe in the ES line? I sure am glad I picked up my 222ES when I did, as the trends clearly are going towards DVD/SACD players and all in one units. Are new ES line annoucements coming soon as well?

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Posted February 25 2003 - 06:45 AM

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Maybe in the ES line? I sure am glad I picked up my 222ES when I did, as the trends clearly are going towards DVD/SACD players and all in one units.


Jeez, Justin, there is no pleasing you. Sony offers great sounding SACD and DVD combo players and you gripe about no pure audio units. If Sony only had audio units, you would be complaining about no DVD capability.

It just shows that you will never like what Sony does. And you call me biased.

I for one like the ability to do both which is why I am considering a 999ES for the living room.

As long as the audio portion sounds great, who cares?
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#14 of 37 OFFLINE   Lee Scoggins

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Posted February 25 2003 - 06:54 AM

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with only 2 SACD capable players in the new lineup announcement.


I am not sure why this is such a big deal John since we are not including the current or expected ES offerings. In a prior post I found something like 6 or 8 current SACD players on the Sony Electronics site.

As with all announcements, there is plenty of time for current inventory to turn over so there is plenty of opportunity for consumers to buy the current low cost offerings which have been as low as $180.

Also, Sony is not phasing out the all in one systems which are Super Audio as well.

So there are lots of Sony models out there no matter what financial position you are in.

I am sure as the format builds we will see more offerings from people like Pioneer and Denon and others at lower price points.
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#15 of 37 OFFLINE   Angelo.M

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Posted February 25 2003 - 07:02 AM

I think the announcement is terrific, and I'm very interested in the 400-disc megachanger w/ SACD capability. I agree that it's great that Sony is putting SACD in players of different price categories, giving everyone an opportunity to sample the technology.

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Posted February 25 2003 - 07:05 AM

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Jeez, Justin, there is no pleasing you. Sony offers great sounding SACD and DVD combo players and you gripe about no pure audio units. If Sony only had audio units, you would be complaining about no DVD capability.


Actually I am pleased, as I am really enjoying the 222ES I have recently purchased. When you add video componetry on low cost models corners are always cut. (Note: I said "low cost" units, not high dollar models along the line of Sony ES etc.) There is just too much going on in a $250 DVD/SACD player, to make it a quality audio component. Do away with the video, and you have more money there for audio upgrades. Hence my ponderings about announcements to the ES line.

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It just shows that you will never like what Sony does. And you call me biased.


Whoa there. I wonder about audio only players which I am interested in and now I am anti-Sony biased (hmm, I own a Sony TV, Sony SACD player, Sony receiver in my second system, Sony DVD player, Sony alarm clock, Sony computer monitor...upon further review I guess I am anti-Sony biased). There is a difference between being objective and being a pure lap dog.

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Posted February 25 2003 - 07:13 AM

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(hmm, I own a Sony TV, Sony SACD player, Sony receiver in my second system, Sony DVD player, Sony alarm clock, Sony computer monitor...upon further review I guess I am anti-Sony biased).

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#18 of 37 OFFLINE   Lee Scoggins

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Posted February 25 2003 - 09:25 AM

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There is just too much going on in a $250 DVD/SACD player, to make it a quality audio component.


For audiophiles yes, but aren't they buying the ES line or one of two dozen other high end SACD players?

For Joe Sixpack, it will sound a lot better than his $100 CD player.

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I wonder about audio only players which I am interested in


That's fine - do what you want - but most consumers would prefer to have the DVD player thrown in. If you want good audio quality, you can buy a cheap player and have it modded in certain cases. I think Allen Wright is doing mods on the lower-priced ES line.

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I think the announcement is terrific


Me too and its likely the first of many - there has been talk of ES product announcements in late spring/summer. Posted Image
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#19 of 37 OFFLINE   Justin Lane

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Posted February 25 2003 - 09:33 AM

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there has been talk of ES product announcements in late spring/summer.


Thanks for finally answering my original question Lee as to when ES players might be coming (albeit sidetracked by some tirade about me being anti-sony biased....cranky aren't we). Honestly this is all that interests me on the SACD front, though a 400 disc player is tempting. I will probably hold off on a SACD or DVD-A mega changer until we get a universal model down the road.

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#20 of 37 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted February 25 2003 - 04:50 PM

Doesn't anyone see the irony here:

a 400 disc, MP3 capable, DVD/*SACD* player?

Somehow, I wouldn't expect to find "audiophile" performance in a unit like this...
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