El Cid & Fall of the Roman Empire? (1 Viewer)

Bob Engleman · Feb 3, 2003

Does anyone have info on the release of these titles?

Bob Engleman

Doug Bull · Feb 3, 2003

Last I heard was that Beuna Vista were searching for better source materials.
I'm certain they are still very much on the agenda.(although it seems to be a long time ago since they were first announced)

A word of warning for those who can't wait to get any of these titles from the Bronston Studios.
The region 4 releases of "55 Days at Peking", "Circus World"and "El Cid" are sub standard in the extreme and contain awful 4:3 Pan and scan transfers. ( Yuck and double yuck)
"Fall of the Roman Empire" is non Anamorphic Letterbox and has an acceptable transfer, if you are desperate.
It features a somewhat poor quality 2.0 true Stereo soundtrack, but is missing the Overture, Intermission and Exit music.

Cees Alons · Feb 4, 2003

I second both (that's 4).

Cees

Mark_Wilson · Feb 5, 2003

All of the Bronston movies mentioned above are coming out in R2 Japan very soon.

Jeff_HR · Mar 19, 2003

All of the Bronston movies mentioned above are coming out in R2 Japan very soon

I just ordered "55 Days at Peking" from CD Japan recently. Unfortunately my order is on backorder, perhaps because a great many people were buying it from them.

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Douglas R · Mar 20, 2003

I must say I'm getting fed up with waiting for these but I'm sure the Buena Vista releases will be the ones to go for. I'm sure the Japanese issues won't have had any restoration work done.

Jeff_HR · Mar 20, 2003

I'm sure the Japanese issues won't have had any restoration work done

You have hard proof of this info?

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Douglas R · Mar 22, 2003

You have hard proof of this info?

Nope! But we know Miramix are restoring them for release in the USA through Buena Vista.

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Jeff_HR · Mar 29, 2003

My "55 Days at Peking" is on the way from CD Japan.

Jeff_HR · Apr 1, 2003

My "55 Days at Peking" DVD arrived today. I'll watch it tonite & post my impression.

Douglas R · Apr 3, 2003

My "55 Days at Peking" DVD arrived today. I'll watch it tonite & post my impression.

Jeff - we're eagerly waiting!

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Jeff_HR · Apr 3, 2003

I did not get a chance to watch it yet. Other events have prevented it. Sorry.

Joe Caps · Apr 3, 2003

I figured its time to call Miramax. Talked to sevral people in video in Miramaz in New York and in Los Angeles. Got the same bad news. On the record, all these titles are on the back burner. Off the record - these titles aren't even being worked on now!!!

Jeff_HR · Apr 3, 2003

Got the same bad news. On the record, all these titles are on the back burner. Off the record - these titles aren't even being worked on now!!!

Sounds like a good reason to become multi-regional to me. Especially if these films are important to you. It was because of the situation with the R1 "All That Jazz" that I decided to become multi-regional.

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Mark_Wilson · Apr 3, 2003

Guess its time to buy the R2 versions then. Thanks Miramax.

Danny_N · Apr 4, 2003

Jeff, can you do a quick check to see if it is the roadshow version of 55 Days At Peking (ie does it include the overture, intermission etc.)?
I would be very tempted to sell my French R2's and get these Japanese releases if they are the full roadshow versions (especially now that it seems that restored R1's aren't coming in the near future).

Jeff_HR · Apr 4, 2003

I'll check for the overture & intermission.

Jeff_HR · Apr 4, 2003

There was a nearly 3 minute overture, but I could not detect any intermission while fast forwarding thru the DVD.

Danny_N · Apr 4, 2003

Thanks Jeff

. Guess these are the roadshow releases then. Running time is also a good indicator. On cdjapan 55 Days has a running time of 160 minutes. My PAL R2 runs 145 minutes. So the Japanese version is +/- 9 minutes longer. I think I am going to take the gamble and order all 4

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Douglas R · Apr 5, 2003

Thanks from me as well Jeff. If these have the Overtures then they are better than the French, German and UK releases. Think I'll get El Cid and Fall of the Roman Empire at least, as these are my favorite Bronston epics.

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