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ALIEN QUADRILOGY discussion thread (including all the glitches)


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#21 of 2705 OFFLINE   Geoff_D

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Posted January 28 2003 - 02:57 AM

RE:the Alien Legacy's initial dvd release. The way I see it, Fox did their damndest to make available all the material that they had at the time, even if it meant a virtual re-package of the Alien & Aliens CAV laserdisc box sets. The public were clamouring for the dvds, and to be honest I'm just happy they were anamorphic (coming from Fox at that time, this was a minor miracle) so the extras that did appear were an added bonus. And getting extras for the last two movies would've proved very difficult considering the troubles that occurred on both Alien3 and Alien:Resurrection, with the former proving particularly troublesome for all involved.

But now, it seems as if things have settled and Fox will hopefully push ahead with a new cut of Alien3, meaning that Alien3 fans (there aren't many of us!) will get to see a dvd of this fine movie that we've always dreamed about. Hopefully we'll get some seamless branching to contain both versions of Alien3 and Aliens on single discs, as well as dts tracks all round. I think brand new cast commentaries would go down a treat - imagine Weaver doing one for all four movies! Most of the cast members from all the movies are still around, so commentaries (as well as new retrospective documentaries) shouldn't be a problem, as far as scheduling conflicts allow.

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Edit: Just read PhilipG's post and I have to wonder why people still see Aliens as such a trial for seamless branching. Yes, I know the SE was put together on video, but who's to say that Fox (or folks at Lightstorm) haven't created new positive elements of the SE footage? In fact, the dvd version is slightly different from the existing SE anyway, as a continuity error present in the theatrical version was corrected for the SE. But this error re-appears on the dvd version of the SE, leading me to believe that instead of using the horrible video version of the SE, Fox used film elements of the theatrical version which flawlessly blend with the 'only on video' SE footage.

#22 of 2705 OFFLINE   Mark Silver

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:10 AM

There was a new 2+ hour documentary on all of the films on Bravo a month or so back. I will almost guarantee that they will slap that onto one of the bonus discs.

#23 of 2705 OFFLINE   Paul Arnette

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:15 AM

Here's me hoping that the theatrical cut of Aliens is included in this box set. I seem to be in the minority, but I think Cameron really screwed up the pacing of the film by adding back so much needless, in my opinion, footage with uneven acting to boot.
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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:27 AM

I have never been so pleased with myself for holding off a previous release. Posted Image

Somehow I knew, just knew this would happen.

Besides, what's the use of buying the original set when I can borrow it from my next-door neighbour Posted Image

A "Director's" cut of Alien3 would be most welcome, although I like the movie as it is. Maybe I just carry a soft spot for tragic sacrifices like Ripley's.

Maybe the ninth disc will make Alien a three disc set?
Or perhaps they're putting the TE and SE of Aliens on seperate discs in addition to a third?

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:30 AM

I'm gonna wait and see what the new features are. I'm really not interested in owning 3 & 4, but if there's some worthwhile extra material, I might bite.

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:47 AM

On British tv a few months ago there was a long documentary on the Aliens films - all of the films. It looked like a very recently made documentary but I must say I thought the documentary was nothing special and I expect it may well be the 9th disk. I won't be getting the whole lot - I expect they will release Alien and Aliens separately at some point as 2 disk SEs - that will do me. The other Alien films were not in the same class as the first two imo.

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:51 AM

I bet it will be 2 discs per movie, with the 9th disc being the Bravo showPosted Image
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#28 of 2705 OFFLINE   Neil S. Bulk

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Posted January 28 2003 - 03:56 AM

The show was on AMC, not Bravo.

Everything from the prior LD's and DVD's of Alien and Aliens must be included to make this the "Ultimate" set. That includes The Alien Legacy documentary.

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#29 of 2705 OFFLINE   SteveGon

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Posted January 28 2003 - 04:05 AM

I second what Paul said: I want both cuts of Aliens. Throw in a different cut of Alien 3 and I'll pick the set up.

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Posted January 28 2003 - 04:09 AM

Thought that I read something about the company that produced the Legacy doc will not let fox use it for some reason. Anyone know more about that?

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Posted January 28 2003 - 04:11 AM

I am buying this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The British Documentary hosted by Mark Kermode and featuring LOADS of people was unmissable. It dealt with The original MONK ALien 3 and interviewed the proposed director, and Charles Dance stated that what they did to ALien 3 was terrible. Poor old Paul Macgann. I hope he gets re-instated.

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#32 of 2705 OFFLINE   PhilipG

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Posted January 28 2003 - 04:24 AM

Oh ye of little faith!

Quadrilogy is absolutely correct. Anyone who has said differently in this thread needs to do some more research before claiming superiority.

I refer you to The Oxford English Dictionary ("Shorter" version, if you want to be pedantic).

quadri- Having four, fourfold.

(and later in the same paragraph)

qua'drilogy n. a tetralogy.

(I suspect that the apostrophe there is just the OED's guide to the pronunciation)

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Posted January 28 2003 - 04:49 AM

I want both cuts too. I would prefer the theatrical cut though.

Alien and Aliens OWN.

I wish they stopped at Aliens, as Alien3 and Alien4 were horrible.

Will this include the ORIGINAL Alien3 teaser? The Earth teaser?

Once can imagine what could have been...Alien3, directed by Cameron. All out war on Earth.

Oh well.

#34 of 2705 OFFLINE   Alex Spindler

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Posted January 28 2003 - 05:20 AM

I've always been a fan of the entire series, to include both the third and fourth installments. For once a series had the bravery to strike out in new directions with each film by selecting a different feel, focus, and director.

I am beyond curious about how Alien3 might have turned out, so if that is included I'll be in heaven.

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Posted January 28 2003 - 05:50 AM

I thought there was talk from R. Scott of extending ALIEN with the deleted scenes-some we know about-some not. If true, cool.
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However! a DC of ALIEN3 could be interesting...
I guess ive kinda outgrown ALIENS, so that will not tempt me.
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Posted January 28 2003 - 05:59 AM

Doesn't the R2 boxset include the 'mail away' disc we got in R1?

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Posted January 28 2003 - 06:02 AM

am I glad that I have not bought the Alien movies, I am tempted now

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Posted January 28 2003 - 06:11 AM

Anyone know what the going rate is for a boxset with the 5th disc? I haven't watched these since I got the box way back when, and don't really see myself watching them again anytime soon.
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Posted January 28 2003 - 06:17 AM

The R2 version did have the R1 mail order disc included in the set already, though I think this was a limited run, and it is not included anymore.

Has there been any sort of suggestion from Fox that a director's cut of Alien 3 might be included because I just thought this was another rumour brought about by wishful thinking from fans of the film (though I would love to see a DC myself)

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Posted January 28 2003 - 06:23 AM

I hope that I will be able to purchase the first two films stand-alone. I really don't want the third and fourth films, no matter how much they re-cut them.

And I second the hope that Aliens has both the theatrical and director's cut. Perhaps they could do the same for the first film (isn't there an unrated cut by Scott out there in other regions?)

Anyway, getting both cuts of Aliens was my reason for holding off on the original release, so I hope they don't force buying the whole series, which I don't want, on me.

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