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#1 of 519 SteveGon

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Posted January 18 2003 - 02:32 PM

Welcome to my Crazy Characters Tournament Posted Image

Mirror, mirror, on the wall,
who's the craziest of them all?

Okay, I'm not really making light of a serious topic, but it's always interesting (and sometimes cathartic) to see actors playing psychotic characters - and they seem to enjoy it.

Anyway, who can forget Travis Bickle's mirror monologue, Colonel Kurtz's corpse-strewn compound, or Norman Bates and his mother?

That's what this tourney is all about - we're going to find out just which movie character is the nuttiest of them all.


The List
    [*][*]The Abyss - Lt. Coffey
    [*]Aguirre: The Wrath of God - Don Lope de Aguirre
    [*]American Psycho - Patrick Bateman
    [*]Apocalypse Now - Colonel Kurtz
    [*]Batman - The Joker/Jack Napier
    [*]A Beautiful Mind - John Nash
    [*]Blue Velvet - Frank Booth*******
    [*]The Bride of Frankenstein - Dr. Pretorius
    [*]The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - Dr. Caligari
    [*]Cape Fear - Max Cady
    [*]Carrie - Margaret White
    [*]Close Encounters of the Third Kind - Roy Neary
    [*]The Deer Hunter - Nick
    [*]Dracula (1931) - Renfield
    [*]Dr. Strangelove - Dr. Strangelove
    [*]Dr. Strangelove - General Jack D. Ripper
    [*]Event Horizon - Dr. Weir
    [*]Fatal Attraction - Alex Forrest
    [*]Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Raoul Duke/Hunter S. Thompson
    [*]Fight Club - The Narrator
    [*]Frailty - Adam Meiks
    [*]Frankenstein - Victor Frankenstein
    [*]Full Metal Jacket - Private Pyle
    [*]Goldfinger - Auric Goldfinger
    [*]In the Mouth of Madness - John Trent
    [*]Interview With the Vampire - Lestat de Lioncourt
    [*]The King of Comedy - Rupert Pupkin
    [*]King Kong - King Kong
    [*]Little Shop of Horrors - Orin Scivillo, D.D.S.
    [*]The Lord of the Rings - Gollum
    [*]Martin - Martin Madahas
    [*]Misery - Annie Wilkes
    [*]Mulholland Dr. - Betty Elms/Diane Selwyn
    [*]Network - Howard Beale
    [*]The Night of the Hunter - Reverend Harry Powell
    [*]The Ninth Configuration - Killer Kane
    [*]101 Dalmatians - Cruella De Vil
    [*]Pi - Max Cohen
    [*]Pink Floyd: The Wall - Pink
    [*]The Pink Panther Strikes Again - Chief Inspector Dreyfus
    [*]Platoon - Sgt. Barnes
    [*]The Producers - Franz Liebkind
    [*]Psycho - Norman Bates
    [*]The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Riff Raff
    [*]The Ruling Class - Jack Gurney, the 14th Earl of Gurney
    [*]Santa Sangre - Fenix
    [*]Se7en - John Doe
    [*]The Shining - Jack Torrance
    [*]The Silence of the Lambs - Hannibal Lecter
    [*]Sisters - Danielle Breton/Dominique Blanchion
    [*]Speed - Howard Payne
    [*]Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Khan Noonien Singh
    [*]A Streetcar Named Desire - Blanche DuBois
    [*]Sunset Blvd. - Norma Desmond
    [*]Taxi Driver - Travis Bickle
    [*]Things To Do in Denver When You're Dead - Critical Bill
    [*]To Die For - Suzanne Stone Maretto
    [*]Tombstone - Johnny Ringo
    [*]The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - Fred C. Dobbs
    [*]12 Monkeys - Jeffrey Goines
    [*]2001: A Space Odyssey - HAL 9000
    [*]Unbreakable - Elijah Price
    [*]Vertigo - John 'Scottie' Ferguson
    [*]White Heat - Cody Jarrett



Wild Card List
    [*][*]The Abominable Dr. Phibes - Dr. Anton Phibes
    [*]The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai - Lord Whorfin
    [*]Affliction - Wade Whitehouse
    [*]Akira - Tetsuo Shima
    [*]Arsenic and Old Lace - Aunt Abby & Aunt Martha
    [*]The Bridge on the River Kwai - Colonel Nicholson
    [*]The Caine Mutiny - Captain Queeg
    [*]The Conversation - Harry Caul
    [*]Dead Ringers - Beverly & Elliot Mantle
    [*]Dirty Harry - Scorpio Killer
    [*]Halloween - Dr. Sam Loomis
    [*]Harvey - Elwood P. Dowd
    [*]Heavenly Creatures - Pauline Parker & Juliet Hulme
    [*]Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer - Henry
    [*]The Hitcher - John Ryder
    [*]The Invisible Man - The Invisible Man
    [*]Lolita - Humbert Humbert
    [*]Memento - Leonard Shelby
    [*]Payback - Porter
    [*]Peeping Tom - Mark Lewis
    [*]Police Academy - Zed
    [*]Reservoir Dogs - Mr. Blonde
    [*]The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Dr. Frank N Furter
    [*]Romeo is Bleeding - Mona Demarkov
    [*]Seven Samurai - Kikuchiyo
    [*]Spider-Man - Norman Osborne/The Green Goblin
    [*]The Talented Mr. Ripley - Tom Ripley
    [*]Targets - Bobby Thompson
    [*]The Tenant - Trelkovsky
    [*]Tenebrae - Peter Neal
    [*]What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - Baby Jane Watson
    [*]A Woman Under the Influence - Mabel Longhetti


#2 of 519 SteveGon

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Posted January 18 2003 - 02:38 PM

The following are suggestions, not nominations - you'll have to do that yourselves. Posted Image

Megalomaniacs with an axe to grind:

Aguirre: The Wrath of God
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan


Deadly obsessions/paranoia:

Vertigo
The Conversation
Fitzcarraldo


Crazy for their mothers:

Santa Sangre
Psycho
White Heat


The Big Apple can drive you crazy:

Taxi Driver
Fingers


Biblical nuts

Se7en
Night of the Hunter


War is hell on the psyche:

The Ninth Configuration
Apocalypse Now


Odds and ends:

Targets
Peeping Tom



Again, those should give you an idea of what we're looking for. I reserve the right to throw out any nominations I deem unfit. Posted Image

When nominating, please give both the movie title and the character name, as well as a brief plot synopsis if the film is relatively unknown. Thanks!

#3 of 519 Richard Kim

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Posted January 18 2003 - 02:43 PM

I'd like to nominate:

Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver
Norman Bates in Psycho (1960)
Jack Torrance in The Shining (1980)
Col. Kurtz in Apocalypse Now
The Narrator in Fight Club
Gollum in LOTR: The Two Towers (obsessed with something to the point of it consuming their lives.)

Hope that's not too much to handle. Posted Image

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Posted January 18 2003 - 02:52 PM

Good picks!

One thing: let's stick primarily to human characters. Gollum is fine, and I'll accept a few other non-human entries, but let's not overdo it. Thanks!

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Posted January 18 2003 - 02:56 PM

Sounds like fun, I'll chime in with my noms and seconds a little later.

In the meantime... people, while you're pondering your nominations for this tournament, PLEASE don't neglect the epic Characters Tournament that Vickie is running! She's put a lot of work into it, but we need more people providing their input!! Right now, only about 5 people are contributing. Nominations are still open!

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Posted January 18 2003 - 03:01 PM

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#7 of 519 Dome Vongvises

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Posted January 18 2003 - 03:03 PM

nominations
Private Pyle Full Metal Jacket
Reverand Harry Powell Night of the Hunter
Nick The Dear Hunter

second
Jack Torrance Stanley Kubrick's The Shining
Gollum Lord of the Ring: The Two Towers
Travis Bickle Taxi Driver
Norman Bates Psycho

I have two noms, 1 second, and all my thirds.

#8 of 519 Vickie_M

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Posted January 18 2003 - 03:39 PM

Thanks Chuck!

Nominate:

Bess McNeill - Beaking the Waves (Emily Watson)

Grima Wormtongue - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (Brad Dourif)

Charles Bushman - Sling Blade (J.T.Walsh)

Don Lope de Aguirre - Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Klaus Kinski)

Brian Sweeney Fitzgerald - Fitzcarraldo (Klaus Kinski)


Second:

Apocalypse Now - Colonel Kurtz
The Deer Hunter - Nick
Fight Club - The Narrator
Full Metal Jacket - Private Pyle
The Night of the Hunter - Reverend Harry Powell



Third:

The Lord of the Rings - Gollum*
Psycho - Norman Bates*
The Shining - Jack Torrance*
Taxi Driver - Travis Bickle*
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#9 of 519 ChuckDeLa

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Posted January 18 2003 - 04:11 PM

Boy, this was a hard list to narrow down!

Nominate:
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet (Dennis Hopper)
Howard Beale - Network (Peter Finch)
Rupert Pupkin - The King of Comedy (Robert DeNiro)
HAL 9000 - 2001: A Space Odyssey (Douglas Rain)
"The Mantis" - Red Beard (Kyoko Kagawa)


Second:
Bess McNeill - Breaking the Waves (Emily Watson)
Don Lope de Aguirre - Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Klaus Kinski)



Some more I would have nominated if I had more noms (hint hint!):
Jeffrey Goines - 12 Monkeys (Brad Pitt)
Leonard Zelig - Zelig (Woody Allen)
Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper - Dr. Strangelove (Sterling Hayden)
Donnie Darko - Donnie Darko (Jake Gyllenhall)
Carol White - Safe (Julianne Moore)
Bruno Antony - Strangers on a Train (Robert Walker)

#10 of 519 Bill J

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Posted January 18 2003 - 05:13 PM

Third:
Apocalypse Now - Colonel Kurtz

#11 of 519 SteveGon

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Posted January 18 2003 - 05:32 PM

Vickie and Chuck: I'm going to throw out Charles Bushman from Slingblade and "The Mantis" from Red Beard as they were minor characters with relatively little screen time. I know they were crazy, but I'd like to stick with characters that had bigger parts. Sorry, I should have clarified that. Posted Image

Chuck: good suggestions except for Carol White. I haven't see Safe for a few years, but I don't remember her as being crazy. Granted, she had a hard time dealing with her condition, but she didn't really go loco.

Vickie: I'm not sure about Grima Wormtongue. Was he really crazy? I only saw TTT once (sorry) and I don't remember much about him.

Has anyone else seen Fingers? Great movie with Harvey Keitel that came out a few months ago on DVD. I did a write-up on it in the Expanding Horizons thread.

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Posted January 18 2003 - 06:09 PM

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Chuck: good suggestions except for Carol White. I haven't see Safe for a few years, but I don't remember her as being crazy. Granted, she had a hard time dealing with her condition, but she didn't really go loco.


I realize that it's rather open to interpretation, but "her condition" is that she IS loco.

No biggie, though.

With the Mantis gone, I'll nominate:

Jeffrey Goines - 12 Monkeys (Brad Pitt)

#13 of 519 Ric Bagoly

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Posted January 18 2003 - 06:27 PM

Nominate-

Mr. Blonde aka Vic Vega-Reservoir Dogs (Michael Madsen)

The Joker aka Jack Napier-Batman (Jack Nicholson)

Billy Bibbit-One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (Brad Dourif)

Sir Edward Gull-From Hell (Ian Holm)

Raoul Duke aka Hunter S. Thompson-Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas (Johnny Depp)

Second-

Frank Booth

Rupert Pupkin

Howard Beale

HAL 9000

Third-

Nick

The Narrator

Private Pyle aka Leonard Lawrence
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Posted January 18 2003 - 07:36 PM

Second:

The Joker aka Jack Napier-Batman (Jack Nicholson)

Third:

HAL 9000

#15 of 519 ErikG

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Posted January 18 2003 - 07:55 PM

Nominate:

Hannibal 'The Cannibal' Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) Silence of the Lambs
Lt. Coffey (Michael Biehn) The Abyss
Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale) American Psycho
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#16 of 519 Travis Olson

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Posted January 18 2003 - 07:55 PM

Noms:

John Doe - Seven
Howard Payne - Speed
The Deacon - Waterworld
John Trent - In the Mouth of Madness

#17 of 519 ErikG

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Posted January 18 2003 - 08:04 PM

Nominate:

Dr. Weir (Sam Neil) Event Horizon
Scorpio Killer (Andrew Robinson) Dirty Harry

Second:

Frank Booth-Blue Velvet
John Trent-In the Mouth of Madness
John Doe-Se7en

Third:

The Joker-Batman
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#18 of 519 SteveGon

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Posted January 19 2003 - 01:27 AM

Regarding Safe:

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I realize that it's rather open to interpretation, but "her condition" is that she IS loco.

Like I said, it's been awhile. Didn't she develop a severe allergy to cleaning products and such? (yeah, I know that's just touching the surface of what the film is about) I've thought about picking up the DVD, but it's a bit pricey.

List updated.

Okay, we seem to be getting a lot of noms for your regular old crazy badguys: Howard Payne, Frank Booth, The Deacon, Scorpio Killer, etc. That's fine but I'd just as soon not have the tourney weighted heavily towards those types. I'll accept a few more of those, but that's it. Posted Image

As for what else can be nominated, I'm thinking of Scottie Ferguson's obsession in Vertigo, Harry Caul's paranoia in The Conversation, Cody Jarrett's impending breakdown in White Heat, Bobby Thompson going over the edge in Targets, and Vincent Kane's delusion in The Ninth Configuration, to name just a few.

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Posted January 19 2003 - 02:00 AM

Ric, after giving it some thought, I'm going to toss Billy Bibbit - he just seems out of place here. If you'd like to nominate Pink from The Wall, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Granted, he had a drug problem, but the seeds of his insanity were planted long before that.

And that's what I'm getting at here: I'd like to see more of the interesting headcases. Too many routine crazy/eccentric villains and this tourney would turn into a snoozefest. Posted Image

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Posted January 19 2003 - 02:38 AM

Third: Rupert Pupkin
Reverend Harry Powell


Nominate Max Cady (Cape Fear 1991- played by De Niro)

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