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The Tomahawk: 8 liter 500 hp motorcycle


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#1 of 32 OFFLINE   Dennis Nicholls

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Posted January 06 2003 - 02:56 PM

OK you wussie guys, including Philip Hamm and Jack Briggs, are you man enough to do 300 MPH on the new Dodge Tomahawk?

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#2 of 32 OFFLINE   Chuck C

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Posted January 06 2003 - 03:00 PM

You'd have to wear a few bullet proof vests or else hit an insect and die!

#3 of 32 OFFLINE   Philip_G

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Posted January 06 2003 - 03:17 PM

that isn't a motorcycle, I count 4 wheels
also, there's a boss hoss that's 500hp and got its ass handed to it by a hayabusa or ZX12R (can't 'member) this will be slower I assume because of the weight, until the top end rush, motorcycles are painfully non-aerodynamic, I'm no physicist but I'm not sure 300 mph is possible. very few have even gone 200.

#4 of 32 OFFLINE   Drue Elrick

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Posted January 06 2003 - 06:27 PM

Why do I get the impression that that thing should be able to transform like those Robotech cycles...

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Posted January 06 2003 - 06:33 PM

Why do I get the impression that that thing should be able to transform like those Robotech cycles...


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#6 of 32 OFFLINE   Jeff_Krueger

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Posted January 06 2003 - 07:44 PM

How about this Turbine powered bike, though its top speed is only estimated at 250mph maybe you could get bigger turbine in order to go faster.
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Posted January 07 2003 - 02:40 AM

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#8 of 32 OFFLINE   Josh Lowe

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Posted January 07 2003 - 02:46 AM

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also, there's a boss hoss that's 500hp and got its ass handed to it by a hayabusa or ZX12R (can't 'member) this will be slower I assume because of the weight, until the top end rush, motorcycles are painfully non-aerodynamic, I'm no physicist but I'm not sure 300 mph is possible. very few have even gone 200.

The Tomahawk allegedly goes from 0-60 in 2.5 seconds with a top speed of nearly 300mph. Sorry, but not even a turbo Hayabusa has a prayer against that.

#9 of 32 OFFLINE   Philip_G

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Posted January 07 2003 - 02:54 AM

I think the key word there is allegedly. Has it been tested? no.
oh, and the stock hayabusa can do 0-60 in 2.6. Most of it depends on the rider. But the facts are clear, a ZX12 stomped a 500hp v8 bike not once, but several times.

I still don't believe that bike can do 300, the Y2K can do something like 250. And it's fully faired, and much more aerodynamic

#10 of 32 OFFLINE   Philip Hamm

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Posted January 07 2003 - 04:32 AM

That "Tomahawk" has four wheels from the picture. It's an interesting vehicle but no motorcycle.

It absolutely can't do 300 mph, at least with a rider aboard, unless they do some serious fairing and aerodynamic work.

I love that turbine powered bike, it is so funny. I'm surprised it's not made by Kawasaki Heavy Industries since they have a very large gas turbine development arm.

Philip, it must be cool to be a motircyclist in "grand forks". Are those "grand forks" Ölins by any chance? Showa? Kabaya?

One of the mags tested my '95 GPZ1100 ("detuned" ZX-11 motor) at 2.3 sec for 0-60 off the showroom floor Posted Image. I can tell you it hauls serious ass up to about 120, then falls off. (60-100 roll-on is almost scary - but not in ZX11/12/Hayabusa/CBR-XX territory)
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#11 of 32 OFFLINE   Philip_G

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Posted January 07 2003 - 04:43 AM

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Philip, it must be cool to be a motircyclist in "grand forks". Are those "grand forks" Ölins by any chance? Showa? Kabaya?

showa 43mm forks, compression, rebound, and preload adjustable, and a sachs rear (also 3 way)
To upgrade to ohlins I would need a mille R forks and triples. It's been done before, but the showas are sprung pretty heavily and work fine for me. It's an easy, but expensie swap.
the sachs is off a standard mille, the sachs they put on the falco is a pile of crap, well unless you weigh less than 150lbs.

I'm not sure what the deal is with the ohlins wannabe gold, the previous falcos had black forks, I had not noticed that until just now.

the top end decay sucks, if motorcycles weren't so DAMN un aerodynamic...

if you consider no trees, wind, flat, straight roads, a 7 month winter, and a 3.5 hour drive to the nearest track (BIR) cool, then cool it is Posted Image

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Posted May 29 2004 - 02:55 AM

Do you need more bike than this?

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#13 of 32 OFFLINE   Steve_Tk

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Posted May 29 2004 - 03:52 AM

I'm not man enough.

#14 of 32 OFFLINE   Garrett Lundy

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Posted May 29 2004 - 04:26 AM

Considering that the Dodge Tomahawk isn't capable of moving in any direction but a straight line without falling over, it shoudlr eally be considered a drag-bike, or a salt-flats speedster.

And in both cases its horribly underpowered and far too heavy.


It is nothing more than a styling concept that was never meant to work.
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Posted May 29 2004 - 04:55 AM

I just had a look at it on dodges website and the 0-60 and top speed figures are estimated.

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Posted May 29 2004 - 05:28 AM

A buddy of mine who's an EMT calls guys on motorcycles doing over 120mph "JOB SECURITY"
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#17 of 32 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted May 29 2004 - 06:51 AM

Well, the concept of "ridability" is an issue here. This would not be a machine to do the sacred twisties of Mullholland Highway or the Angeles Crest Highway or legendary Highway 33 (the SoCal canyon carver's mecca).

It's a concept machine, and in that sense it's interesting. Interesting also to see a four-wheel OEM's take on the two-wheeled sport (and their's has four wheels!).

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#18 of 32 OFFLINE   Garrett Lundy

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Posted May 29 2004 - 09:19 AM

A quick check of motorcycle speed records quickly dismisses the "400mph" claim.

Especially since the only bike capable of going 300 mph has 1500 horsepower.

500 gets you into the low-9 second quarter mile times. Not exactly hot shit.
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Posted May 29 2004 - 12:17 PM

No not at all, and notice I only posted the 700 GSX-R, because that's about all I could handle.

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I not even close to man enough for this one.

I love the look of the Hayabusa

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Posted May 29 2004 - 12:33 PM

http://www.virtualca.../ninja1200g.jpe

The Ninja 1200 gets you about the same amount of horsies as the GSX-R 1300

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