Your movie/tv show opposites. Where u go against the masses? (1 Viewer)

[GeorgePaul]

This gets my vote for best HTF thread ever. Is that a contrarian view?

Just a FEW more...

"Mystery Science Theater 3000" is, indeed, the best series ever produced for American television--with the original "Fugitive" a close second.

On the other hand, "South Park" is indeed the most overrated. It is the crown of insults to viewer intelligence.

John Carpenter's best film is The Fog.

2001 grows more dated and less interesting every year.

There are far worse overactors than William Shatner--he earns my respect, though, for capitalizing on this perception and also continuing to mine his great chemistry with the more-talented Leonard Nimoy.

Leslie Nielsen deserves one last funny ZAZ (Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker) movie. I refuse to watch any of the crap he made after 1995.

I agree with the previous sentiment about Charlton Heston--for all his political extremism, the man was a damn good actor for several decades before that involvement.

Michael Moore hasn't made a film even watchable as a quality piece of cinema since Roger & Me. Both Hoop Dreams and Super Size Me are superior films by superior filmmakers.

Downfall is the best film from Germany since the Werner Herzog/Klaus Kinski collaborations.

Papillon is Steve McQueen's best film (and performance)--not to mention one of the greatest action movies of all time.

You think product placement and corporate involvement is bad in current Hollywood film? Watch Mac and Me (1987) sometime to have your mind blown.

Judd Apatow is the best director active in Hollywood currently--the Cameron Crowe of the 21st century. His next project should look back at high/middle school in the 1990s from a teacher's perspective, with "Arrested Development"'s Michael Sera (George Michael) playing one of the other major roles. TV needs Apatow...badly.

I am well enough aware of the supreme suffering of Jesus without seeing him turned to hamburger on film. Some people may have needed The Passion of the Christ to get religion...just like they needed Saving Private Ryan to give them the proper respect for America's WWII veterans. I did not.

The cinema will be dead as a profit center by the end of the decade unless it allows directors to have the guts to tell the truth in high drama again (not in a Michael Moore "op-ed" piece).

...and I'm spent.

 

[Justin_S]

Quentin Tarantino is a talentless hack who rides on the coattails of other filmmakers. His Kill Bill vol. 1 is one of the worst "films" I've ever seen. You couldn't pay me to watch the second half.

The Spider-Man films are poorly made, poorly plotted, and overly sentimental. I would love to see Raimi out of the director's chair for the third one. Also, Kirsten Dunst can't act for shit, and she's ugly too.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, The Hulk, Batman Begins, and Blade are the best things to ever happen to the superhero subgenre.

If Ang Lee doesn't return, I don't want to see a Hulk 2.

Superman has always been a horribly uninteresting character.

Aside from cinematograpy, Black Christmas is infinitely superior in every way to the more popular Halloween.

David Cronenberg, David Lynch, and John Carpenter are three of the greatest, most consistent directors to ever grace cinema.

John Carpenter's best and most frightening film is the underrated Prince of Darkness. Its also the best religion based horror film.

Bride of Frankenstein is more laughable than effective. It doesn't deserve its reputation at all, and Frankenstein is vastly superior.

Poltergeist is a big, loud, overdone piece of shit.

Haute Tension's ending makes perfect sense and gives the film more depth.

I much prefer Halloween III: Season of the Witch to the original. I love the direction they took this film in.

Halloween II is a dull piece of crap.

The Blair Witch Project is not only terrifying, but its also one of the five best horror films ever made.

The only Star Wars film that's the least bit entertaining is Return of the Jedi.

All Monty Python films suck.

MST3K sucks. Painfully unfunny.

The Rapture is one of the overlooked greats of cinema. Mimi Rogers should've become a huge star after this one.

Horror is the best film genre.

Predator 2 is much better than the first, and I prefer Glover to Schwarzenegger.

Alien 3 is the best of the series.

Julia Roberts has zero acting talent, and she's annoying as hell.

Tarkovsky's Solaris is better than 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Die Hard 2 is the best of the series.

Friday the 13th part V: A New Beginning is my favorite of the series.

I cannot stand musicals.

Cujo is the best adaptation of a Stephen King story. Its followed closely by The Stand and The Night Flier.

The Scream films are garbage. They're an insult to the genre.

Friends is possibly the worst show to ever pollute the airwaves.

Desperate Housewives is an awful show.

Club Dread is comedy gold, and its much better than the lame Super Troopers.

BASEketball is the only worthwhile thing Trey Parker and Matt Stone have ever been involved in. Hilarious movie.

Kingdom of Heaven is better than Gladiator.

Ridley Scott's best film is Legend.

Spielberg's best film is Duel.

Michael Moore isn't capable of making a documentary that's even half as good as Waco: The Rules of Engagement or the Paradise Lost docs.

The Oscars are a waste more often than not. They're way more of a glorified popularity contest than they are about true talent and greatness.

That said, Dances with Wolves was much more deserving of its Best Picture win than Goodfellas could ever have hoped to be. One of the few times I agreed with their pick.

Both Chinatown and The Conversation were much more deserving of the 1974 Best Picture Oscar than The Godfather part II.

Paul Haggis' Crash is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. The fact that it won Best Picture is both sickening and laughable, especially when you consider all the great films released in 2005.

Casino blows Goodfellas away.

Carpenter's The Thing, Cronenberg's The Fly, Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and Chuck Russell's The Blob are perfect examples of remakes that are superior to their originals.

The remakes being made today are nothing more than get-rich-quick schemes that lack any artistic merit.

Sam Neill, Miguel Ferrer, and Christopher McDonald are three of the most underrated actors of our time.

The 90s were nowhere near as bad for horror as many make them out to be.

Targets is an amazing film, the best Karloff ever did.

The Deuce Bigalow films are funny to me.

Almost Heroes is Chris Farley's funniest movie.

Lucio Fulci was a much better director than many give him credit for being.

Dellamorte Dellamore is the best zombie film ever made. Its simply brilliant.

Day of the Dead is the best zombie film Romero has done to date. His best film, period, is Martin.

Shaun of the Dead is very overrated. It's slightly entertaining and nothing more.

I like Army of Darkness better than the first two Evil Dead films. I think the second one is the weakest.

Waterworld is a good movie.

Sphere is a great movie.

Sisters is underrated as hell, and the best film Brian DePalma has done.

I'd take the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer movie over the TV series any day.

Rutger Hauer's best performance is in The Hitcher, not Blade Runner.

The Rules of Attraction is one of the most underrated films of the new millennium.

The director's cut of The Abyss is much better than the theatrical cut.

Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is the best of the series. The extinct pets aspect never fails to sadden me.

 

[Joe Karlosi]

THE APARTMENT was a bore.

FRANKENSTEIN 1970 is a fine Boris Karloff horror film.

RAGING BULL is way overrated.

The fate of the little girl in ALIEN 3 was a good move.

BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES is enjoyable.

I hate THE SIMPSONS.

HORROR OF DRACULA isn't so great.

Paris Hilton isn't such a bad actress.

GODFATHER III isn't that bad.

 

[Peter Apruzzese]

Some more:

STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE is the best of the Trek films. It's the only one that's actually a movie rather than an expanded tv episode.

It's impossible to overrate Kubrick, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Welles, Huston, Lynch, Lean, and Robert Wise. In fact, they're still underrated.

People who haven't seen 2001: A Space Odyssey or Lawrence of Arabia theatrically in their intended format (70mm) haven't really seen them.

I wish everyone could see Hitchcock's original version of Vertigo rather than the "restoration".

A movie shot on film is best seen theatrically.

 

[Kevin M]

...I would have said Soldier Of Orange but whatever...


Ok, here....I hate everything that everyone loved and love everything that everyone hated...as long as it makes me "different" and "original"....how's that?

 

[Don Giro]

I apologize in advance:

"Casablanca" is the most overrated film of all time. "E.T." is right up there with it.

The more I hear and see about Ben Affleck convinces me that there’s no way he and Matt Damon wrote “Good Will Hunting”

The mere presence of Jason Lee can make an otherwise intolerable film watchable.

I really liked “Halloween 3,” “Independence Day,” “Van Helsing,” “Twister,” “Blue Crush,” and “Mystery Men”

“It’s a Wonderful Life” ain’t wonderful at all.

Wes Anderson is the most pretentious director alive today.

There’s something about Owen Wilson that makes me wanna put him through a wall.

Liv Tyler is overrated on all accounts: She’s never had a memorable role, and I think she looks like a pre-teen boy.

John Wayne played John Wayne in every film.

Keanu Reeves is the worst actor I can think of.

“Unbreakable” is Shayamalan’s best work.

“The Ring” bored me senseless.

“Jaws 2” has its moments.

“Batman Returns” is better than “Batman.”

“GoodFellas” is better than “The Godfather.”

“History of the World Part One” is Mel Brooks’ funniest film.

When I refer to “The Holy Trilogy,” I’m usually referring to the “Die Hard” films.

I think the Academy hands out too many “Best Actress” Oscars to beautiful women who “play ugly”: Halle Berry in “Monster’s Ball,” Charlize Theron in “Monster.”

I lay awake at night wondering why Cameron Diaz gets huge sums of money to appear in films, when it seems clear (to me, anyway) that she’s not a box office draw.

Any director who uses “bullet time” effects in a film that does not contain the word “matrix” in its title should be shot.

“The Mind of the Married Man” and “The Comeback” are great shows.

I find most “old” movies hard to watch because I have a hard time believing anyone talked like Humphrey Bogart, James Cagney, and Edward G. Robinson in real life.

Jar Jar Binks is not the Antichrist.

I miss Ernest Rister.

And as for Gilligan’s Island: give me Ginger AND MaryAnn.

 

[Kain_C]

Considering G1 is a more highly rated movie, THAT isn't really a contrarian view either, is it? I prefer the first one myself.

Also, most people I know adore Fifth Element, so I stand by my post.

 

[Wendy_L]

How's this for going against the majority...

I enjoyed Glitter and would watch it over Chicago any day. Chicago bored me to tears and I turned it off after 20 minutes.

I loved The Day After Tomorrow. I will see anything by M. Night Shaymalan...loved ALL his movies.

I bought all three LOTR movies in Full Screen version. And when given the choice, I will buy the full screen version of any movie over the wide screen version... or at least until I'm forced to buy a wide screen TV.

Except for the first season, I do not like 24, even though it is an action packed show I find it very boring. I love Yes, Dear and it always makes me laugh at least 3x an episode.

 

[Kevin M]

Ha! How's that for "going against the flow" opinions, HTF? I love it.

 

[Chuck Mayer]

I dislike Friends. It represents the very worst of People Magazine guiding the viewing decisions of people who don't like anything that doesn't conform to expectations.

Scrubs is the best show on TV, and has been for four years.

Titanic is my favorite film of all time, and it ain't close.

I think the Matrix Trilogy is mostly misunderstood, and is superior to any other "genre" trilogy, including Star Wars, Star wars PT, and LOTR. And Reloaded is the best film in the series, easily.

Big Trouble in Little China was 20 years ahead of its time. And one of the best films of the 80's.

Conan the Barbarian was a masterwork. One of the best directing jobs of any action film...ever. And one of the best scores as well.

Gangs of New York was flawed, critically so. And it was still better than TTT or Chicago. 2002 was a weak year for "awards" films. DDL should have won the Oscar for this year, the year before, and the year after...just because he was THAT good.

Black Hawk Down is the most PURE war film ever made. It was a better film in 2001 than A Beautiful Mind.

So was Fellowship of the Ring.

So was A.I., a film I don't like much, but one I respect.

So was Moulin Rouge, the most joyous film of the new century. This should have won best picture in 2001.

Erin Brockovich was a polished Lifetime movie. Julia has had some good performances. This wasn't one. This award was "dancing bear" syndrome. Look at Julia whore it up and say some bad words. And stick it to the snooty lawyer woman. Oscar GOLD! Ellen Burstyn should have... (see DDL comment above).

Contact was brilliant sci-fi.

I truly liked Episode III of Star Wars. I think it was near-brilliant in it's construction. Episode I was mediocre and Episode II was the worst in the saga...no focus, no energy, and only Ewan to keep it marginally watchable.

Face/Off looked new-school, but was really old-school. And one of the best action films of the last decade.

Aliens is the most influential film of the last twenty years, in terms of action films and thrillers. And nothing else is even close. Except maybe Die Hard.

Cameron Crowe is the best director no one has heard off (outside of film geeks like us).

Garden State was merely Crowe-lite.

Halle Berry can't act.

Cameron Diaz can, but sometimes chooses not to.

Jodie Foster is the most beautiful famous person in the world,
Chuck

 

[Peter M Fitzgerald]

Some more (mostly TV-themed):

Despite following in its footsteps, and having essentially the same basic template, WKRP IN CINCINNATI is superior to THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW in every way.

Though Diana Rigg's "Emma Peel" will always be tops, Linda Thorson was a good partner for John Steed in THE AVENGERS.

Michael J. Nelson was a more consistently funny MST3K host/screen participant than Joel Hodgson.

Though it's a fun watch, the original STAR TREK series, despite its intellectual posturing and critical acclaim, is about as dopey and unsubtle as a typical episode of LOST IN SPACE.

LAND OF THE GIANTS was Irwin Allen's best TV series (I realize that's not saying much ).

Lara Flynn Boyle was the best thing about THE PRACTICE.

Judging only from his old NBC late-night talk show, LATER, Bob Costas was a consistently better interviewer than either Dick Cavett, Tom Snyder or Charlie Rose.

PIXIE & DIXIE (& MR. JINX) was the only funny TV cartoon that Hanna-Barbera ever made, and was far funnier than any TOM & JERRY short.

TINY TOON ADVENTURES and ANIMANIACS weren't worth the effort made to create them. The fact that anyone would like them as much or more than any WB theatrical short from 1936-1963 flys in the face of every known law of Man and Nature.

THE CONEHEADS is the best SNL spin-off movie since THE BLUES BROTHERS, and, apart from WAYNE'S WORLD, the only good one made in the last 25 years.

Both GONE WITH THE WIND and RAGING BULL were less than the sum of their parts.

John Garfield's screen performances (usually "the righteous guy with a chip on his shoulder") weren't all that more varied than John Wayne's.

THE GRUDGE will probably remain the best Hollywood-made horror flick released in the last year or so, and is the equal of the Japanese-made original, JU-ON.

Though it's good and funny and improves upon subsequent viewings, THE BIG LEBOWSKI is still one of the least of the Coen Bros' efforts, only a notch above INTOLERABLE CRUELTY and THE LADYKILLERS.

 

[WillG]

I greatly prefer the Kirstie Alley years of "Cheers" over the Shelly Long years. The upcoming season 6 DVD release is the first I am planning to buy.

I throughly enjoyed "Back to the Future part II" I think it unfairly gets a bad rap from many for its darker tone.

I think "Friday the 13th Part III" is a strong entry in the the series

Halloween III really is not that bad when compared to the crap that passes for horror movies these days. The relatavely good reputation that H20 gets coasts by on the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis returned to the series. I was also put off by how the film broke rules relating to Michael Myers (Running after his targets, actually killing younger children)

I would rather watch "Weekend at Bernie's" again than many of the Oscar calibre films of recent years.

Left the theater more satisfied after "Attack of the Clones" than after "The Phantom Menace"

"The Jerk" is funny, but not as funny as people give it credit for.

"Armageddon" is a perfectly entertaining film.

If I had to choose one, I would probably stick with "Alien" over "Aliens"


I concur completely. Coasted to fame from her daddy getting her in his music videos. Every I watch a LOTR film, it bugs me when I see how high she was billed (especially for the scant amount of screen time she had).

 

[Aaron Thorne]

I agree!

Also, Brosman was the best Bond.

 

[Edwin-S]

What happened to Ernest Rister? He used to make some pretty good posts.

 

[Garrett Lundy]

It was only recently I discovered she wasn't supposed to be someone 16-19. Now that was some bad casting!

 

[george kaplan]

No offense, and yes, this is a thread where you can safely state that opinion, and sure your opinion is in the minority because as laid out in the HTF mission statment this site is officially pro-OAR and anti-pan & scan site, but why be a member of a site that officially condemns your opinion?

 

[JonZ]

-Star Trek 3 is my second fav Trek film after Khan.Nemesis didnt stink as bad as everyone said.

-Network TV sitcoms are unfunny,worthless and not worth watching and havent been for past few decades(except Arrested Development, The Simpsons first 10 seasons and MArried With Childrens first 5).

-M Night is overrated.Unbreakable is his best film and The Villiage was ok(But Bryce is fine!). Sixth Sense and Signs were bad movies

-The only somewhat decent Romantic Comedy Ive ever seen is My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Romantic Comedies are just plain cliched and stupid.

-I also think Gone with The Wind and Wizard of Oz are overrated

-Reality TV needs to die - now.

-True Lies is one of the worst films Ive ever seen in my life

-The LOTR & The Matrix Trilogies are overrated

-I HATE E.T. and Tim Burtons Batman

-Deadwood is the best thing Ive seen on TV since Millennium

-The last decent season of X-Files was the 5th.

-Jackie Brown is superior to Pulp Fiction

-Both Ace Ventura movies are funny

-New martial arts films are terrible compared to the ones the Shaw Bros Studios made in the 70s

-90% of "Classic Films" are corny crap


A few of my favorite Underrated Films:
Dogfight,Nixon,Dead Presidents,Gridslock'd,Drugstore Cowboy,Shadow Of The Vampire,Barry Lyndon,Re-Animator,The Thin Red Line,Born On The Fourth Of July

 

[Peter Apruzzese]

Yes, but it actually looked and sounded like a movie - the others are all pretty cheap-looking productions that look much better on television. ST:TMP plays great on the theatre screen.

 

[Michael Elliott]

Most threads, nevermind sites, would condemn most of the opinions in this thread.

 

[Leo Kerr]

Okay, okay... I guess I can safely put in a few of my opinions and not worry about being crucified - after all, there's always Wendy_L who buys P&S to get first.

1. I preferred Timmy Dalton as Bond.

2. I *liked* Ladyhawkes score (yes, I've seen this earlier in the stack.)

3. Most recent American animation has been crap. Disney hasn't done any good feature animation since Beauty and the Beast. (There were a few good sequences in Fantasia 2000, but 15% of one film of shorts doesn't make a feature.

4. Computers are not 'saving' animation.

5. Computers are not saving films, either. In fact, no amount of CG work will give you a script.

6. Hollywood should look more toward the Japanese style of film-making: churn out thousands of