WSJ: iPad 3 with Retina Display early 2012 (1 Viewer)

[DaveF]

Originally Posted by TonyD

I'm not sure how it would connect to 3G before it was set up and running.

It could use the 3G network to connect to the server to issue the activation command, enabling full data access. The "activation" is a billing formality, not an installation of hardware and drivers to physically enable 3G.

Originally Posted by Sam Posten [url=/t/314060/wsj-ipad-3-with-retina-display-early-2012/30#post_3894131]

Do a google search, nobody else seems to have this issue that I can see. If you find others please post examples because this sounds like operator error to me the way you are describing it...

Here's what I know: Home wifi was turned off. Wife went to iPad Settings to turn on 3G. Did not work. Gave a no-data-access error. Got home wifi back on, and iPad on wifi, and 3G could then be turned on.


The implication is that if you're on the road, and decide you'd like your iPad to have data, you're sunk. At least until you can stop at a McDonald's or Starbucks, get on wifi, and then turn on 3G. That's bad design. Maybe it's an unusual glitch that hit my wife's device. I've not spent any time looking into it.

 

[TonyD]

Sounds like a glitch. As I mentioned, after the first time I turned on 3G with a wifi connection I can turn on 3g anytime and anywhere. On the first time... I'm not sure how it is supposed to work on the iPad, I only know it wouldn't work the first time without a wifi connection.

 

[TonyD]

Just for a quick test i turned off wifi. I dont have a 3G plan right now so with wifi off I went in to try and add one. I logged in and went right to the page to add a plan. Worked.

 

[Sam Posten]

I'm not sure how it would connect to 3G before it was set up and running.

It is smart enough to have an unregistered process. Just like phones can connect to 911 when they are unregistered. This isn't new. All that's new is not requiring a computer to register and everything you need is taken care of in the panels provided. Even if you don't have wifi. Trust me.

 

[Sam Posten]

The implication is that if you're on the road, and decide you'd like your iPad to have data, you're sunk. At least until you can stop at a McDonald's or Starbucks, get on wifi, and then turn on 3G. That's bad design. Maybe it's an unusual glitch that hit my wife's device. I've not spent any time looking into it. 

I assure you this was a glitch or operator error. The iPad is fully capable of registering itself without being tethered to a computer and without already being on WIFI. Again, trust me, this is not an issue or you'd have heard about it.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

One of the interesting things I have heard over the
past few days is that (I believe) Verizon is going to

come up with a plan that allows you to share your

data plan between your iPhone and iPad.


It is anticipated AT&T might follow that route.


The plan could cost an extra $10 a month.


Now, if they allow you to share your unlimited

data plan between both devices for an extra $10

a month, then you can be certain I'll be the first
in line to sign up for it.

 

[DaveF]

Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein

One of the interesting things I have heard over the
past few days is that (I believe) Verizon is going to

come up with a plan that allows you to share your

data plan between your iPhone and iPad.

There were rumors last year of a Family Data Plan

http://gigaom.com/mobile/verizon-confirms-family-data-plans-coming-in-2012/


This might be of the same total plan.

 

[TonyD]

It is smart enough to have an unregistered process. Just like phones can connect to 911 when they are unregistered. This isn't new. All that's new is not requiring a computer to register and everything you need is taken care of in the panels provided. Even if you don't have wifi. Trust me.

I do trust you. I can only offer my experience and apparently Dave's too that the initial attempt to sign up for a 3G didn't work. No connection went through. Now that I have done that I can connect to 3G even with my account expired.

 

[Sam Posten]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is interesting but too immature a tech for iPad 3, maybe iPad4. Apple doesn't have their own chip foundries, they would need to have existing foundries massively scale up for this and no way they could do it in time for an early 2012 iPad3 launch, and they HAD there is no way they could have kept something this transformative as secret as they have so far. But I'd LOVE to hear MattCR's take on it http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/02/apples-macroscalar-architecture-will-it-take-ios-to-the-next-level.html

 

[Sam Posten]

iFixit makes some predictions: http://www.pcworld.com/article/249375/ipad_3_predictions_and_challenges_from_ifixit.html

 

[Sam Posten]

You know my stance on rumors but if JD says it's on, It is ON http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/02/13/ipad-3-event-pegged-for-march-7/

 

[DaveF]

Like a convolvotron?

 

[Sam Posten]

I was thinking more Minotron, but sure. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/minotron-2112/id421377889?mt=8 Actually I have no idea what that is The WSJ has a pair of doozies today. First up they say 4g is a definite go. OK I'll buy that. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204062704577221960347109978.html And then they say that Apple is continuing to 'test' smaller iPads, I think this is red herring or leak tests personally, but you never know: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577222354104574994.html

 

[DaveF]

Without a doubt, there will one day be different sizes. Eventually. But 2012 seems early.

 

[Sam Posten]

Far more likely for them to upsize the ipod touch than downsize ipad

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

Originally Posted by Sam Posten

Far more likely for them to upsize the ipod touch than downsize ipad

What's the (real) diff unless you're saying they will stop producing either iPod Touch or iPad at their current sizes if/when they do that? I suppose if they're replacing either, it would definitely make more sense to upsize the iPod Touch (rather than downsize the iPad) since the iPhone already fills the need (for the most part) at the smaller form factor.


_Man_

 

[Steve_Tk]

I'd like a smaller iPad. Not half the size, but I feel like it's one inch too big.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

Yeah, I guess I might also prefer a slightly smaller iPad though it's not clear whether that makes sense from Apple's perspective.


_Man_

 

[Steve_Tk]

TBH, I'd rather have a inch larger iPhone and my iPad stay the same. While I have an idea for the perfect size for an iPad, I'm perfectly happy with it's current size. I'm not happy with the iPhone size.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

Hehheh... As I mentioned in the past, what I'd *really* want is some sort of plug-and-play core module to go w/ a bunch of different human interface modules so I can easily and effectively swap between different form factors, phone-type usage vs non-phone-type usage, etc. etc. But it probably won't be easy/feasible anytime soon, so that's really just a pipe dream...


I mean we're already getting a taste of that w/ at-home streaming over WiFi, BT headsets and other "hands-free" stuff, etc, so...


_Man_