1. Guest,
    If you need help getting to know Xenforo, please see our guide here. If you have feedback or questions, please post those here.
    Dismiss Notice

Woo hoo! Becket (1964) FINALLY on DVD!

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Greg O' Connel, Dec 20, 2002.

  1. Greg O' Connel

    Greg O' Connel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2000
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    0
  2. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    28,132
    Likes Received:
    3,846
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    I've waited a long time for this excellent film and if you're a fan of "The Lion in Winter" then you'll love Peter O'Toole's earlier performance as the same King Henry II in this 1964 film.




    Crawdaddy
     
  3. David Lambert

    David Lambert Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2001
    Messages:
    11,386
    Likes Received:
    38
    Oh, shit yeah! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Saw this and speed-surfed over to MPI's website, where I only found this small blurb:
     
  4. Devin U

    Devin U Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2002
    Messages:
    399
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sweet! Ill soon be able to put my now aging LD copy of this into retirement!.
     
  5. Bill Huelbig

    Bill Huelbig Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2000
    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    17
    Location:
    Weehawken, NJ
    Real Name:
    Bill Huelbig
    It's one of my favorite movies, but I have never seen BECKET in widescreen or in stereo. I can just imagine how incredible it's going to be.

    I feel like I'm being spoiled - so many of my favorites are coming out on DVD in the first half of 2003, it's hard to believe.

    --Bill
     
  6. Larry Sutliff

    Larry Sutliff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2000
    Messages:
    2,861
    Likes Received:
    10
    I just put in my pre-order. This news has made my day!
     
  7. Bill McCamy

    Bill McCamy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 1999
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    1
    Great news. I haven't seen this in 25 years. For those interested, "Eleanor of Aquitaine and the Four Kings" by Amy Kelly (1950) is an excellent history of this period. The book will add tremendous depth to the movies ("Becket" and "The Lion in Winter"), especially for those who, like me, are weak in 12th century European history.
     
  8. Cees Alons

    Cees Alons Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 1997
    Messages:
    19,144
    Likes Received:
    242
    Real Name:
    Cees Alons
    I've seen this film in the cinema and have the VHS version. I'm very glad a DVD version arrives now! Hoped for it ever since The Lion in Winter came out.
    Great news!
    Cees
     
  9. Dick

    Dick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 1999
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    Real Name:
    Rick
    Well, I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but try not to be overly optimistic about what you'll be getting. It's wonderful that MPI is finally letting this one out of the bag, but they have been notoriously fickle in terms of quality. Their laser release of this had a barely acceptable transfer with constantly shifting colors, plus a rather awful sort-of stereo soundtrack, and I don't think MPI is known for restoration. I'd be expecting the same transfer on the DVD. Better than nothing, of course, and I could be wrong (hope I am!)
     
  10. Greg O' Connel

    Greg O' Connel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2000
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah, I'm not expecting much, but anything would have to be better than the VHS version, which is my only other option. If only Criterion could have got their hands on this film...
     
  11. Steve Christou

    Steve Christou Long Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    15,245
    Likes Received:
    255
    Location:
    London, England
    Real Name:
    Steve Christou
    I've had a full screen version of 'Becket' for donkeys years, and now I'll finally be able to see it in all its widescreen glory [wipes tear], great film, great acting! O'Toole played the same part, King Henry II, in 'The Lion in Winter', another great film.

    "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
     
  12. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Archivist
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 1999
    Messages:
    8,619
    Likes Received:
    4,018
    Real Name:
    Robert Harris
    While I hate to kill someone's sales, I really must be honest about what is occurring with this title.

    MPI, which is the owner of Becket via the Hal Wallis estate, has declined for years to create preservation elements on the film after they lost the original negative.

    They recently allowed AMPAS to use their separation elements and create a new dupe negative.

    But thiis preservation work will have nothing to do with the forthcoming dvd as MPI seems to be jumping the gun.

    None of the effort going into the restoration of rotted mag tracks and recomping of picture elements, inclusive of a scene in which Becket and King Henry "frolic" with a local girl (from the international version) will be found on the new dvd.

    From what I'm led to believe, the dvd will be created, as was the old laserdisc, from used 35mm dye transfer prints.

    I would suggest that this dvd be avoided like the plague.

    Those of you who have a need to send funds to MPI, might consider their release of the Zapruder film, which on dvd will enable you to view your former President's head exploding in slow motion.

    Great entertainment for Christmas from MPI. Think of the gleam in a little boy or girl's eyes as they find the Zapruder film under the tree with their name on it.

    It seems that one can always find class and quality on the MPI label.
     
  13. Cees Alons

    Cees Alons Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 1997
    Messages:
    19,144
    Likes Received:
    242
    Real Name:
    Cees Alons
    Mmm. Thanks for the update, Robert.
    It's fortunate we stopped stoning the bearers of bad news... [​IMG]
    Cees
     
  14. Bill McCamy

    Bill McCamy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 1999
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    1
    Robert,

    You induced a trip down memory lane. I remembered an early Playboy pictorial of the "frolic" you described. Back in the day that European audiences could see nudity on the screen, but Americans could only view photographs in a magazine. Interesting analogy to the "Eyes Wide Shut" situation. I guess that we still cannot tolerate the amount of sexuality to which our poor European cousins are subjected.
     
  15. Douglas R

    Douglas R Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2000
    Messages:
    2,003
    Likes Received:
    347
    Location:
    London, United Kingdom
    Real Name:
    Doug
     
  16. David Lambert

    David Lambert Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2001
    Messages:
    11,386
    Likes Received:
    38
    Robert, I hear you. And, thanks for the information. Nice to go into this with a clear understanding of what I would get for my money.

    On the other hand, instead of avoiding it like the plague, I will support this version and at the same time encourage MPI to release an SE version when the restored elements are ready. If they can not or will not handle it, I will encourage them to license this to Criterion.

    Finally, I would say that MPI is not all bad. Their Dark Shadows releases are quite enjoyable!
     
  17. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2002
    Messages:
    7,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    can anybody tell me why Becket is so good ? I have not heard of this before

    Thanks
     
  18. David Lambert

    David Lambert Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2001
    Messages:
    11,386
    Likes Received:
    38
    Great story, great acting. It's really about two men who have everything in common and are the best of friends, and one of them finds something else to do that his friend can not or will not share. Now the friend is utterly jealous and lonely, feeling betrayed in the extreme. What do you tend to do in these situations? Lash out, as hard as you can, of course. When you're the King of England in olden times, your temper tends to flare up with deadly consequences!
    That is the story essentially told here: that of Thomas a Becket (Richard Burton), who was later named Saint Thomas, and his "betrayal" of his best friend, King Henry II (Peter O'Toole). Both of them explored some of the best depths of their acting here, and this is one not to be missed! Again, too bad the initial DVD will not be an effort worthy of this masterpiece. But I will find a way to enjoy it nonetheless, and push for the Special Edition! [​IMG]
    Steve, the line you are looking for is this one: "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
     
  19. Douglas R

    Douglas R Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2000
    Messages:
    2,003
    Likes Received:
    347
    Location:
    London, United Kingdom
    Real Name:
    Doug
     
  20. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2002
    Messages:
    7,632
    Likes Received:
    1
    David / Douglas
    Thanks for the info, looks like I will pre order this and hopefully this will also help towards a SE down the road
    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page