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Directors Why Does George Kaplan Hate This Movie Tournament?

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Lew Crippen, May 25, 2006.

  1. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

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    This tournament will consist of films that George Kaplan hates, but that at least one of us considers to be a very fine film.

    The idea for this came from a comment in George’s Oscar Tourney thread. George’s well known penchant for eschewing the middle-ground when rating movies often results in ratings of moves that hit the minus scale, even if the rating system has no negative numbers.

    Put another way: there are movies that George hates.

    As it happens many of these movies I consider masterpieces.

    The rules are simple:
    1.You may nominate any film that you like and believe that George hates
    2.George may veto any movie that he does not actually hate, but he cannot nominate movies (this would make the list too long [​IMG])
    3.Nominations need not be seconded and will close when I think we have enough titles (and I have no preconception as to how many that will be).
    4.As the match-ups are posted, vote for the film you think is the best movie (choose your own criteria)/
    5.George may vote (after all, I’m sure that there is a distinction between a movie rated at minus 100 and one rated at minus 50).

    Everyone gets four nominations to begin. Mine are:

    Barry Lyndon

    Cries and Whispers

    Taxi Driver

    Do the Right Thing



    The Nominations:

    1All About Eve
    2All that Heaven Allows
    3Alphaville
    4Andrei Rublev
    5Barry Lyndon
    6Belle du Jour
    7Blow Up
    8Blue Velvet
    9Breaking the Waves
    10Broken Blossoms
    11Chicago
    12Conformist, The
    13Cries and Whispers
    14Dancer in the Dark
    15Dawn of the Dead
    16Do the Right Thing
    17
    Enfants du paradis, Les
    18Gone with the Wind
    19Marriage of Maria Braun, The
    20
    Moulin Rouge
    21Mulholland Drive
    22Once Upon a Time in America
    23Persona
    24Piano, The
    25Red Shoes, The
    26Requiem for a Dream
    27Room with a View, A
    28Safe
    29Searchers, The
    30She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
    31Shock Corridor
    32Taxi Driver
    33Thelma and Louise
    34Titanic
    35Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf
    36Withnail & I
     
  2. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    All I can think of right now is The Searchers.

    Might be fun to do a "Movies You Know George Would Hate" tourney. [​IMG]
     
  3. JohnRice

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    The only one I can think of off the top of my head...

    A Room with a View

    Edit, a couple more from the March madness final

    25th Hour
    Mulholland Drive
    (or, for that matter, anything ever done by David Lynch)
     
  4. JohnRice

    JohnRice Lead Actor

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    BTW lew, you need to make the sales pitch in your sig a link. I'm guessing you know how to do that, but if not, here is how...

    just post this in place of what you have now. Don't replace your entire sig, just the part about this tourney.

    [*url=http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=235293*]Check out the "Why Does George Kaplan Hate This Movie Tournament?"[*/url*]


    Remove the 4 * and don't leave any space where they were.
     
  5. Brook K

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    Alphaville
    Breaking the Waves
    All that Heaven Allows
    The Last Laugh
     
  6. Rain

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    Les Enfants du Paradis
     
  7. JohnRice

    JohnRice Lead Actor

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    Only one Rain? I know you can do better than that.
     
  8. Rain

    Rain Producer

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    I can't remember what George hates. It's been a while.

    Oh, I know he hates John Wayne and since Wayne's best performance is in, let's go for the close second:

    She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

    Does George like Brokeback Mountain...if not I nominate that too.
     
  9. Rain

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    Gone with the Wind

    Happy, Rice? [​IMG]
     
  10. JohnRice

    JohnRice Lead Actor

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    OK, my final nom is Proof 2005. I have no idea if he hates, but since I love it, he probably does.

    If I may endulge myself and just in case some of my others get vetoed...

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    A Very Long Engagement
    21 Grams
    In the Bedroom
    The Upside of Anger
    Far from Heaven


    Just some faves from the last couple years, so Kaplan must think they are crap. Do with them as you choose, Lew.



    and yes Rain, Children of Paradise and Gone with the Wind are particularly good picks.
     
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    The Red Shoes
    All About Eve
    Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
     
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    Dawn of the Dead
    Requiem for a Dream
    Blue Velvet
    The Conformist
     
  13. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    Hate might be too strong a word for some of these [​IMG], but that's perhaps quibbling.

    Some of these fall into the "I hate how badly they're overrated" rather than I hate the films themselves.

    Let me start by saying I haven't seen (or at least don't think I've seen) the following, so they should be removed:

    Proof
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
    A Very Long Engagement
    21 Grams
    In the Bedroom
    The Upside of Anger
    Brokeback Mountain
    The Last Laugh

    There is certainly a difference between a film I think is overrated like Blue Velvet and films I hate (for various reasons) such as Requiem for a Dream or Do the Right Thing. But the things I dislike about Blue Velvet (and Mulholland Dr.) certainly outweigh the things I like about them, so I wouldn't veto them. If you get too many and want to cut it down (e.g. from 18 to 16), let me know, and I could certainly make those finer distinctions.

    And some of these I must admit are spot on [​IMG] I certainly do abhor many of these such as Cries & Whispers, Breaking the Waves, The Searchers, All About Eve, etc.

    I realize you don't want any nominations from me, but if anyone is looking for some ideas, don't forget films like:

    Blow Up
    Blood for Dracula
    Bridget Jones' Diary
    Caro Diario
    Dancer in the Dark
    Doctor Detroit
    Don't Look Now
    The English Patient
    Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
    Festen
    Flesh for Frankenstein
    The Hours
    Moulin Rouge
    Safe
    Sid & Nancy
    Slacker
    Thelma & Louise
    Trainspotting
    The Warriors
    Withnail & I
     
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    since George made the suggestion, I'll nominate Moulin Rouge.
     
  15. JohnRice

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    Of course, some of the movies George listed basically suck, by most people's definition, so they seem to defeat the prupose. I mean, Doctor Detroit? Anyway, based on that list, I'll nominate Safe.
     
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    Then I'll replace my Last Laugh nomination with Withnail & I. Man what's to hate about that? Just a funny, funny comedy. Then again, for someone who doesn't think the Coen Bros. are funny, it makes perfect sense. [​IMG]
     
  17. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    I'll save my commentary about the films until the matchups, Brook, but Withnail & I is certainly only funny in the "what's the funny smell" sense of the word. [​IMG]

    I sometimes get titles mixed up, especially with movies I don't like, so for example, perhaps at some point in the past I mentionedd the 25th Hour, when I was thinking of The Hours or the 13th Warrior. And I know I've mixed up 28 Days with 28 Days Later in the past as another example. But, anyway, I'm also pretty sure I haven't seen either of these:

    The 25th Hour
    Far From Heaven

    I'm guessing on these different films I haven't seen that you guys are probably right that I'd hate them, but there's always an odd chance otherwise. I mean, it took many tries but I eventually found a film by Bunuel that I love, and even one with DiCaprio that I liked - which reminds me, hint, hint - don't forget Titanic. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Oh, oh, oh!!! I nominate Titanic!!!!!
     
  19. JohnRice

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    Well, George made a real point of saying how bad 25th Hour was in the March Madness final, and obstaining from voting as a result, but maybe he was just slamming a movie he'd never seen.
     
  20. SteveGon

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    Thought I'd throw out a nom for The Piano. I'm sure George hates it if he's seen it. [​IMG]
     

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