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I wrote that prior to the Amazon price drop, which, as it turned out, was equivalent to $7 (going from 23.99 to 16.99).
To me, it's all part of the same mentality: The Disneyfication of Disney.Originally Posted by Dan_Shane
Bingo.
Not a single plot-point is hurt by this sort of editing. Those scenes were in-jokes, meant perhaps to never be noticed let alone pointed out to the masses.
The real problem is when we start labeling the removal of hidden gags that were never formally approved as "censorship," thereby muddying the waters of the subject of real censorship. Poor old SONG OF THE SOUTH languishes in the vault because there is no way Disney can trim out every single black character who might be perceived as a stereotype, including the Tar-Baby in one of the cartoon segments. That is the sort of censorship I have a hard time accepting.
And how about Pecos Bill rolling up a cigarette in MAKE MINE MUSIC? That is a whole scene gone from an animated film that never once made me long to try smoking. I figured it was just what cowboys did back then, and my folks and I knew the difference between what I saw on the screen and the kind of activity I should imitate.
Disney and other studios can paint in all the undies and scrub all the phone numbers off the walls they want if they would just give me the movies I loved as a kid.
They do bother me because A) We're not getting the original theatrical version of the film, and B) I'm supremely tired of lawyers and accountants running the world.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway
These changes don't bother me in the slightest, to be honest. I never noticed them being present and I've never cared that they are gone.
Thought it was a flash of her boobs? And I would think they have been removed. Damn nothing like looking at 90 something year old boobs. . I have no problem with the changes for they were never supposed to be seen in the first place. They were inside jokes between the animators and their removal does not change the story or entertainment in no waywarnerbro said:What about the Betty Boop flash with no panties? Has that been sanitized too?
Thought it was a flash of her boobs? And I would think they have been removed. Damn nothing like looking at 90 something year old boobs frame by frame . I have no problem with the changes for they were never supposed to be seen in the first place. They were inside jokes between the animators and their removal does not change the story or entertainment in any formwarnerbro said:What about the Betty Boop flash with no panties? Has that been sanitized too?
I'm pretty sure Betty flashed in the laserdisc.Craig_Ehr said:Betty Boop was a single-frame boobies flash and has never appeared on any home video release (to my knowledge). The sans panties clip was of Jessica Rabbit being launched out of Bennie the Cab as his tires get "dipped".
I have no memory of Betty pulling up her dress. Just a frame of her black & white boobs. When I got the laserdisc my immaturity got the best of me so I went through it frame by frame looking for stuff. As I grew up I realized that stuff was not meant to be seen only done as inside jokes and not relevant. However I bet that cell of Miss Boop's nudity would go for a pretty penny now.mattCR said:I have the original cav discs, though ny cld-99 is long retired. I don't remember the betty boop bit, but if its there on the cav, I will be on the side that would want it removed from any bluray release. It wasn't the artist intent and many 'in jokes' etc do not impact the film except to distract from it