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When will the price of Blu-Ray hardware start to drop?

Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by Ronald Epstein, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. Ronald Epstein

    Ronald Epstein Administrator
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    On Wednesday I am due to receive my first high definition player.

    I would have loved to support both HD formats as I feel neither
    is going away any time soon. I decided NOT to buy into Blu-Ray
    because of the $1000 pricetag attached to it.

    This is tough for me, because I realize that in a few months
    the studios are going to be releasing day-and-date product
    on Blu-Ray.

    My question is this....

    When do you forsee prices on Blu-Ray hardware dropping?

    Do you think by 4th quarter it's still going to cost $1,000 to
    get your foot in the door with Blu-Ray?

    ...and please don't mention the $500 game console. I don't
    play videogames and certainly don't want a game console in
    order to play Blu-Ray product.
     
  2. Paul Borges

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    Correct me if I'm wrong someone...but when Sony announced the delay of their player to the fall, they said the price would remain at $999. So I assume prices won't fall until after that. Maybe Christmas?
     
  3. Robert Crawford

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    Ron,
    I don't expect the player prices to drop until other manufacturers release their players besides Samsung, Sony and Pioneer. Now, that doesn't mean that some retailer might make a special offer to sell some players at $900.00 or so, but I don't expect that to be the norm until much later like the 2nd half of 2007.





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  4. Ron-P

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    The bigger question is, when will the picture quality improve? From what I am reading (and the demo I saw) it looks more like upscaled 480p then HD, nothing even close to what Toshiba is giving us.

    As to the question, I'm guessing we won't see a price drop until the second gen players.
     
  5. Ronald Epstein

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    So, essentially, if these friggin' overpriced players are gonna
    stay in the $900-$1K pricerange for the next year, I might as
    well go out and buy a player instead of waiting for the prices
    to drop.
     
  6. Robert Crawford

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    You can't be more wrong about the upscaled 480P. I have both formats and the difference in picture quality from the discs I've watched are very little.



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  7. Robert Crawford

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    Ron,
    Who really knows???? I'm just giving you my opinion which is based on nothing, but my gut and pass video format experiences.





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  8. Ron-P

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    From what I am reading over at AVS the majority say differently about the PQ between HD-DVD and BD.
     
  9. Robert Crawford

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    Believe whomever, but my non-bias eyes think both formats are very similar in performance.





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  10. Michael TLV

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    Greetings

    If the formats track similar to the DVD ... then expect about a $150-200 drop in price per year ... with each new generation.

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    Ron:

    I'm not expecting a price drop of any kind (for either format) until around June-July of 2007.

    It would not surprise me to see DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray combo decks from Samsung, LG, Cyberhome, and other manufacturers either announced or introduced around that time as well. I expect these first combo decks to cost between $850 - $1200.

    (Coincidentally, I'm trying to hold out until July 2007 to purchase into the HD formats even though I'll probably be obtaining some HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs before then.)
     
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    So that would be 1 non-bias eyes vs more than 1 non-bias eyes over at AVS that says different. I think I would rather stick with what the majority is saying and not the minority.
     
  13. Robert Crawford

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    Every person has to make up their own mind on what to believe or not to in this latest format war.




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    I wouldn't buy the Samsung player. It's got too many quirks [in the manual] and, apparently, bugs [not in the manual]. Hopefully, the Pioneer and Sony machines which have been held back for "interoperability testing" should work much better.
     
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    boy..if it's $200 per year, I won't be getting one for about 3-4 years.
     
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    Ron,

    I would wait for the Sony player if you do decide to drop 1K on a Blu-ray player.

    I know you don't want to buy a gaming unit, but for $499 it will probably be the cheapest Blu-ray option for a while.
     
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    Actually $599 if you want HDMI, and who wouldn't with the prospect of ICT. But for $599, do you think you'll really get a good quality Blu-Ray player in the PS3? Take a look at the terrible quality of the DVD player in PS2 and I think its a bit premature to assume that Sony will deliver a decent Blu-Ray player in PS3.
     
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    there is also another possibility...
    Maybe when Ron gets his A1 and his discs he won't see enough of an imporvment to warrant $500, let alone $1000 on new hardware.

    Even though I'm high on the format and at this point would prefer to have everythig I buy from now on be in HD, there are times when I watch regular ole sd dvd and still come away mighty impressed and popping in an HD title afterwards seems less like a quantum improvment and more like a "thats nice" improvment.

    everybody has their own eyes, ears, and thresholds and they need to ultimately heed those rather than the voices of the crowds.
     
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    From what I saw (BB demo, via HDMI to a 46" LCD) I was not impressed and it was nothing close to HD-DVD, of course, it was BB so....

    When the Sony machine streets I will pick one up for a few weeks just to see with my own eyes. I will return it due to the price but I'll know for sure how it really looks.
     
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    I don't know how to say this without it being viewed as scornful towards you, but I despise such action as buying/using and then returning merchandise you have no intention of keeping before you bought it. It's a practice by some consumers that I have an ethical problem with and it causes retailers to enforce return merchandise guidelines that affects us all including those with legitimate problems with products that they're trying to return.





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