1. Guest,
    If you need help getting to know Xenforo, please see our guide here. If you have feedback or questions, please post those here.
    Dismiss Notice

What Once Beloved TV Character Now Strikes You As Being Annoying?

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by Professor Echo, May 6, 2013.

  1. Jack P

    Jack P Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    3,740
    Likes Received:
    903
    Hogan simply gave us every week what audiences had already seen in "Stalag 17" and "The Great Escape". I think one would have to be offended by those films in order to be offended by Hogan.
     
  2. Rob_Ray

    Rob_Ray Premium
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    Messages:
    1,783
    Likes Received:
    1,070
    Location:
    Southern California
    Real Name:
    Rob Ray
    So did my dad, also a Purple Heart veteran of the war, but not a POW. He loved anything having a WWII setting from Twelve O'Clock High to Hogan's Heroes.
     
  3. Professor Echo

    Professor Echo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,921
    Likes Received:
    988
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Real Name:
    Glen
    My German friend tells me that HOGAN'S HEROES remains one of the most watched, popular shows in Germany. They love it there.
     
  4. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
    If my understanding is right, it is captioned there and supposedly Klink has a mistress that's never seen in the show?
     
  5. Professor Echo

    Professor Echo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,921
    Likes Received:
    988
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Real Name:
    Glen
    That's true, Ron. She is his maid and mistress. He says "she sweeps pretty fine," which has a double meaning in the German language. Is she not mentioned in the US version? (I've probably seen maybe three episodes of the series in my life).
     
  6. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
    No, no mistress mentioned at all. I've been watching since I was a kid and have probably seen every episode and I've never saw a mention. If anything, Klink is a loser in love in the original version. I guess that Batman cameo didn't help him, either :lol:
     
  7. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
     
    Gary OS likes this.
  8. Jack P

    Jack P Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    3,740
    Likes Received:
    903
    Would have been more clever to have a window cameo where Batman and Robin go past, the window opens, Schultz sticks his head out and looks up and then shakes his head, "I see NOTHING!" :)
     
    Ron1973 likes this.
  9. John Hermes

    John Hermes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    654
    Location:
    La Mesa (San Diego) CA
    Real Name:
    John Hermes
    Klink fancied himself a lady's man on the show and had some dates but no mistress. Fortunately, he escaped the clutches of General Burkhalter's sister many times. :wub:
     
    Ron1973 likes this.
  10. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
    The question has to be begged how Klink got to America in the 1960's looking no older than he would have as the 1940's Klink! And shouldn't Batman and Robin have turned him in for being a Nazi? Lol!!!!
     
  11. Joe Lugoff

    Joe Lugoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2005
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    207
    Real Name:
    Joe
    I feel like saying this here, although it's kind of irrelevant. I'm too shy to start a new thread for it.

    I've been thinking that sitcoms can be divided into four categories:

    1) Not stupid and funny. These are the great classics, like I LOVE LUCY, THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW, THE HONEYMOONERS, ALL IN THE FAMILY and THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW.

    2) Not stupid, but not really funny. These shows are fine, but you don't laugh much. I'd nominate FATHER KNOWS BEST, BACHELOR FATHER, HAZEL, DONNA REED, DENNIS THE MENACE, OZZIE AND HARRIET and a few others here.

    (Depending on the episode, LEAVE IT TO BEAVER and THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW could fit in either Category 1 or 2.)

    3) Stupid, but can be funny if you're in a stupid mood. Examples of this would be THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES, GREEN ACRES, BEWITCHED, THE MUNSTERS, and many, many others.

    4) Stupid and not funny. These are the really bad ones, of course, and I'd say maybe half of all sitcoms of history fit in here. I feel this way now about shows like MY LITTLE MARGIE, I MARRIED JOAN, GILLIGAN'S ISLAND, BURNS AND ALLEN, HERE'S LUCY and a couple hundred more.
     
  12. John Hermes

    John Hermes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    654
    Location:
    La Mesa (San Diego) CA
    Real Name:
    John Hermes
    Man, oh, man. I think OZZIE & HARRIET is very funny. You might not laugh much but I do.
     
    BobO'Link and Gary OS like this.
  13. Gary OS

    Gary OS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2004
    Messages:
    4,701
    Likes Received:
    1,307
    Real Name:
    Gary
    Absolutely! Ozzie & Harriet would have to go in that #1 category as far as I'm concerned. As would Father Knows Best, Dennis the Menace, LITB and TAGS. No question about any of them in my book.


    Gary "and of course, All in the Family would be in the last category" O.
     
    BobO'Link likes this.
  14. Ejanss

    Ejanss Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,452
    Likes Received:
    371
    Say what you like about Gracie (better yet, don't :angry: ), but never accuse the Burns & Allen SHOW of being stupid--
    George's fourth-wall monologues and sardonic "2 Hip 4 Comedy" delivery letting the audience in on the joke (even the "joke" of his being paid to not really do that much for an act), and even the running gag of watching his own show on TV to find out what was going on in the house, were ahead of their time for the 50's, or even the 60's. (And arguably an influence on Garry Shandling's 80's sitcom.)
     
    BobO'Link and Ron1973 like this.
  15. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
    Count me in on Gilligan being stupid. I still watch it from time to time but it just doesn't hold the same charm that it did when I was a kid/teenager.

    Two shows that held their charm that might fall into the "funny but stupid" category are "Gomer Pyle USMC" and "My Favorite Martian." I watched an episode of Gomer last night on YouTube for the first time in ages. Absolutely hilarious! Sgt. Carter explained there were going to be newspaper reporters and Gomer was dumb enough to ask if The Mayberry Gazette would be there!!!! :rolleyes:

    I was given an Amazon gift card and I purchased a few episodes of "My Favorite Martian." It's been 20+ years since I saw it in reruns. It held up quite nicely amazingly. Some of the shows I loved as a kid (Wonder Woman, Incredible Hulk, Dukes of Hazzard) don't hold the same charm to me now but Uncle Martin and Tim still had me hooked! :cool:
     
  16. John Hermes

    John Hermes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    654
    Location:
    La Mesa (San Diego) CA
    Real Name:
    John Hermes
    Frank Sutton's Sgt. Carter is one of my favorite television characters. His attempt to hold his temper in the episode "Come Blow Your Top" is wonderful, in addition to his acting and comedy in countless other Pyle shows.
     
  17. Ockeghem

    Ockeghem Ockeghem

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    9,420
    Likes Received:
    355
    Real Name:
    Scott D. Atwell
    John,Agreed with regard to Sutton. Jim Nabors was funny, but in my opinion, Carter stole the show and went a long way to making it as good as it is. Side note: I wish the writers and/or Sutton had worked Sutton's black belt skills into a few more episodes than they did. I would have liked to have seen that.
     
    Suzanne.S likes this.
  18. Jack P

    Jack P Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    3,740
    Likes Received:
    903
    I think those who would call "Burns And Allen" an example of a "stupid" sitcom, again need to remember the context for this show as a long-running hit on radio and then TV which lasted as long as it did because it always knew when it was time to adjust formats. For instance, Burns And Allen as a married couple did not take place until 1940, when they had already been on radio for nearly a decade when George realized their routines of him as flustered would-be boyfriend while Gracie kept flirting with the announcer didn't work any longer, so he made it in effect a "domestic" sitcom and found new ways to mine the comedy by having him as flustered husband (and above all just be honest with the audience that already knew he and Gracie were married). Then, when the move to TV came, George made the adjustment by dispensing with the "flustered husband" aspect of his persona and adopting the monologue, breaking of the 4th wall dynamic that he couldn't do on radio (and isn't it refreshing how George's penchant for honesty would make him *address* the repeated changes in the actors playing Harry Morton?).

    "My Favorite Martian" as a "stupid" premise deserves to be regarded as such no more than "I Dream Of Jeannie" or "Bewitched" but it is by far the funniest of those kinds of sitcoms because Walston and Bixby were like watching a great vaudeville team in action.
     
    Ron1973 likes this.
  19. Ron1973

    Ron1973 Beverly Hillbilles nut extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,554
    Likes Received:
    856
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    Real Name:
    Ron Reagan (not that one!)
    Odd you should mention that. The episodes I downloaded were the first two shows from the 3rd season in which Uncle Martin transported them back to the Old West. The bad guys had tied them up and Uncle Martin couldn't use his finger to break the ropes. He told Tim to hold his hands up, that he was going to try something. He went all "Samantha" and wiggled his nose breaking the ropes. Tim asked him where he learned it and he told him "by watching one of your American TV shows!"
     
  20. Ejanss

    Ejanss Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,452
    Likes Received:
    371
    One of my favorite moments has George wondering what all the characters are plotting behind his back, and says "Well, looks like I gotta turn on my show, to find out." He turns on the TV to see long-suffering announcer Harry Von Zell coaching Harry Morton on what would be the best fake excuse to talk George into lending some needed money.
    "Poor guy," George turns to the audience, "doesn't even know he's been fired...But WE know, don't we? :) "
    Later, when the two come in with their story, George says, oh, he was just watching TV.
    "Anything interesting?""Nah, just a couple of dumb guys trying to fool their boss."
     

Share This Page