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THE WONDER YEARS (Consolidated Thread; No New Ones, Please!)

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by ManuelIP, Apr 27, 2003.

  1. Casey Trowbridg

    Casey Trowbridg Well-Known Member

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    That poll ended awhile ago. I'd of course buy this on DVD, but it like WKRP in Cincinnati isn't something I'm going to hold my breath for.
     
  2. Isaac Lew

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    Add me to one of the many people who really want The Wonder Years to come out on DVD. I have every episode (from when they aired on TNN in 2001) taped on VHS, but the quality is getting slightly worse as I watch them over and over again. Any news on the recent poll or anything else at all regarding a possible release?
    -Isaac
     
  3. Mike Williams

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    I would definitely pay a higher price for the season sets if they could keep ALL the music intact. The music is a HUGE part of that show and it would be a shame if it was altered. I have never seen the LaserLight DVDs and I'm glad I haven't. I just can't imagine watching the opening for "The Wonder Years" without hearing Joe Cocker belt out, "With a Little Help from My Friends."
     
  4. Chris^B

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    Why isn't this great show out on DVD?
    Is this an example of the "legal problems" that occasionally come up or is the studio just not understanding the depth of this show?
     
  5. Casey Trowbridg

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  6. John Berggren

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    It is too bad that music clearance rights are such an issue. You would think that the licensors for the music would see value in having the music attached to a show beyond gouging the producers for DVD fees. Wonder Years surely encouraged people to go out and buy CDs of the artists showcased. Surely the DVDs would do the same.

    I find it distasteful that the licensors attempt to rape producers of television shows simply because they didn't predict the advent of DVD or TV on DVD.
     
  7. Mark To

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    And I find it short-sighted bordering on incompetance that producers of shows did not make arrangements for clearances beyond network airings and including other media. But also to be fair, unless the show was a period piece, like the Wonder Years, is it really necessary to have real songs in them? What, underscore which was fine for the first 30 or so years of television, is no longer adequate? Obviously WKRP is not included only because of the show's setting in a radio station. But the shows I loved growing up like Outer Limits, Man from UNCLE, etc, had great scores written for the show which do not have to be cleared or replaced. All of a sudden its better to use pop songs instead? Why? Is this cheaper or is it just easier?
     
  8. Marty M

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    There's no reason for a record company not to give the right to use a song that they allowed 15 years ago. Especially, as someone mentioned, because The Wonder Years soundtrack 3-disc set from a few years ago with many of the songs from the series contains them, and fans of the DVDs may purchase them, causing profit for the record company.

    With good promotion (maybe a duel ad for the DVD and CD boxed set), the record companies could come out on top for once.
     
  10. Casey Trowbridg

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    Regarding people being short sited, there is no way that these companies could've known that these shows would be such a hit on DVD, especially since a show like the Wonder Years was going through its run long before DVD was even thought of. You might say that they knew about VHS, but there are 2 things wrong with this notion.
    1. TV on VHS didn't exactly light the world on fire.
    2. As was stated above many of these shows would've had to renegotiate for DVD clearance anyway.
    Even shows as recently as 5 years ago can be caught up in music rights problems, why do you think you haven't seen Malcolm in the Middle season 2 yet?

    I don't fault those behind these older shows as there is know way they could've predicted these market trends. Even if they had some idea regarding the existance of DVD, they had no way of knowing that TV on DVD would be so profitable.
     
  11. Chris:L

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    Yeah, but what does that have to do about this?
     
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  13. WillG

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    Part of the problem is that I believe multiple parties have to sign off for the use of a song. And all said parties want a piece of the action. Personally, I would rather just have the show and if music has to be replaced, I'll live with it (unless the piece of music was intergal to the plot, such as the "Desperado" episode of Seinfeld).

    I am holding some faith that clearace issues will ease up a bit now that TV on DVD has become so popular. I believe that we are starting to get some material that was previous deemed near impossible. "In Living Color" for example

     
  14. Mark To

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    The Wonder Years was a period piece so popular music of the time made sense. WKRP took place in a radio station. Other than either reason, there is no reason why any other show needs to use popular music in a show. It wasn't done in the 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s. Now its all of a sudden necessary? Why? You do a show, you hire an arranger to write scores for the season's episodes. No rights issues after the fact. Sorry but these are problems that exist that didn't have to.
     
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    Randy,

    Thanks for your insights into the process for acquiring music rights. I thought it was that complicated. Hopefully, the music rights have been cleared if there is a release of American Dreams on DVD.
     
  18. Dane Marvin

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    Marty - It's coming in the fall, so it looks like they've got something worked out.

    I still don't think The Wonder Years is going to sit on the shelf for years & years. I don't even care if it is Fox -- who has done very little to branch out to a demographic not interested in just their sci-fi & animated shows -- I still think it's just a matter of time.
     
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