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Magnus_M

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That sound more like an argument against teen teen sex than an argument against teacher student sex, emotionally and financally it's again somewhat similar between the sexes (pregnancy is however a bigger burden for the mother to be).

If a teenage girl is knocked up a 20 or 30 something male teacher with a wife, a house, and a little bit of cash it's pretty darn obvious to me that he should have to cough up money to support for the child.
If a female teacher get knocked up by her underaged student it's on her, she was the mature one and should also have to face the consequenses of her actions (ie taking the financial burden of the child).

If you were to have both a boy and a girl would you be more emotionally disturbed by the girl having a child or the boy?
I myself would have a hard time grasping that my child were to become a parent, regardless if it was the boy or the girl.
Other than the purely physical fact that the girl would have to carry the child for 9 months there is no difference in responsibility, both parents are equal in this regard (which means equal joy, equal burden).

But I'm really going semi-OT with the discussion att this point.
The main focus of my discussion was if there is a difference if the teacher is male or female.
Something I feel is irrelevant but obviously the courts disagree with regards to rulings and the sentences.

If we want to know what Gary Glitter feels on the subject we really need to have contacts were he is going, anyone know any people kicking it with Lucifer down below?
 

MichaelBA

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Just to be accurate about the law in America vis-a-vis other countries...

The U.S. Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) held that a statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in certain intimate sexual conduct was unconstitutional, as applied to adult males who had engaged in a consensual act of sodomy in the privacy of their home, as impinging on their exercise of the liberty interests protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Thus homosexuals' (as well as hetero- and any other sexuals') right to liberty under the Due Process Clause gives them a right to engage in consensual sexual activity in the home without the intervention of the government.

The words "in the home" are the key to how state anti-sodomy statutes have had to have been modified and interpreted. In effect, those statutes creating anti-sodomy offenses can still be facially constitutional not regarding consenual private sexual conduct in the home but where a legitimate state interest exists in regulating conduct involving minors, non-consensual or coercive conduct, public conduct, and prostitution.

So, notwithstanding the Lawrence decision, these statutes can, as modified, still be used to prosecute conduct in which a minor was involved, conduct involving non-consensual or coercive sexual acts, conduct occurring in a public place, or conduct involving prostitution or solicitation.
 

Micah Cohen

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All you lawyers are ruining this for me. Like a science film popping up in the middle of my porn movie. Excuse me while I whip this out...

"I think of all the education that I've missed
But then my homework was never quite like this!"


I don't feel tardy!

Class dismissed!

("Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad...")

:D

MC
 

Glenn Overholt

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I want to know now who filed the charges and what they expected to get from it?

But I also have to add this - if you could ask the boy(victim) "Do you respect authority figures" what do you think his answer would be?

If you went to a prison and asked the same thing, how many 'yes' answers do you think you'd get?

Does anyone think that this boy might end up not respecting much of anything, and end up in the slammer?

Glenn
 

Jeff Ulmer

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I doubt very much that this has anything to do with anything. Kids have very little respect for authority, they don't have to be sleeping with their teacher/priest/parent or other figure to lose respect. Since the 1960s (and perhaps earlier), it has been the duty of the younger generation to rebel against authority - for good reason in many cases, and any parent of today, in light of the conduct of everyone from politicians to teachers to priests and parents, would face a hard argument based on history. The authority figure has to earn respect, it is not something they should necessarily be handed. There are many more societal influences that would be a greater threat to whether a young person were to find themselves in trouble with the law than boffing their teacher.
 

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