Ethan Riley
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They should cut a deal with Universal to get Flower Drum Song on there, but that's just wishing
Most early cinemascope films were also done (filmed) twice. One cinemascope and other standard. This was because there were few cinemascope screens around when 'scope arrived. We never saw two releases on the dvd or blurays so why have 2 versions on the forthcoming blurays?lukejosephchung said:You're paying for EIGHT separately-filmed movies...both "State Fair" & "Oklahoma!" were done TWICE!!!
LILIOM was included on the 2 disc version of CAROUSEL so it would be expected to be included on the bluray.WilliamMcK said:Both the Borzage and Lang LILIOMs would make nice bonus features on CAROUSEL!
FLOWER DRUM SONG is a much underrated musical that deserves to be seen on bluray. A pity that the outdoor scenes were filmed indoors on a sound stage. That ruined to film for me especially the opening musical number-100 million miracles - it was awful and the set looked so cheap and phony .Ethan Riley said:They should cut a deal with Universal to get Flower Drum Song on there, but that's just wishing
"State Fair" was done originally in 1945 in Academy ratio 1.37, then REMADE IN CINEMASCOPE in 1962!!! "Oklahoma!" was shot in TWO WIDESCREEN FORMATS in 1955...Todd-AO 65mm and Cinemascope using separate takes for every scene and number!!! Does that explain things to your satisfaction?cinerama10 said:Most early cinemascope films were also done (filmed) twice. One cinemascope and other standard. This was because there were few cinemascope screens around when 'scope arrived. We never saw two releases on the dvd or blurays so why have 2 versions on the forthcoming blurays?
I can only recall two CinemaScope films shot twice: The Robe and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.cinerama10 said:Most early cinemascope films were also done (filmed) twice. One cinemascope and other standard. This was because there were few cinemascope screens around when 'scope arrived. We never saw two releases on the dvd or blurays so why have 2 versions on the forthcoming blurays?
IIRC, Carousel was shot twice for Cinemascope, that's why Frank Sinatra turned down the role.Peter Apruzzese said:I can only recall two CinemaScope films shot twice: The Robe and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
Brigadoon and Lady and the Tramp were also both shot twice.Peter Apruzzese said:I can only recall two CinemaScope films shot twice: The Robe and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
Also LADY AND THE TRAMP.Peter Apruzzese said:I can only recall two CinemaScope films shot twice: The Robe and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
To further help with the explication. TODD-AO at that time was shot at 30 frames per second and could not be converted to CinemaScope's 24 fps. I actually enjoy both versions as Zimmerman staged the dances and numbers a little different to use the correct OAR of each process. The KANSAS CITY number a great example with Charlotte Greenwood staying in frame dancing in the background in the TODD-AO version and dancing out of frame in the CinemaScope version. Gene Nelson also has two different dance versions in a couple of scenes in the number.lukejosephchung said:"State Fair" was done originally in 1945 in Academy ratio 1.37, then REMADE IN CINEMASCOPE in 1962!!! "Oklahoma!" was shot in TWO WIDESCREEN FORMATS in 1955...Todd-AO 65mm and Cinemascope using separate takes for every scene and number!!! Does that explain things to your satisfaction?
It started out to be filmed twice but Fox slowed the frame per second rate down to 24 fps by the time it was to be shot so the CinemaScope 55 could be converted to CinemaScope 35. I remember reading that Sinatra also turned down BRIGADOON because it was filmed twice. Not sure if that is an urban film legend or not but he was to play the Van Johnson role.Ejanss said:IIRC, Carousel was shot twice for Cinemascope, that's why Frank Sinatra turned down the role.
I agree that it is much underrated.cinerama10 said:FLOWER DRUM SONG is a much underrated musical that deserves to be seen on bluray. A pity that the outdoor scenes were filmed indoors on a sound stage. That ruined to film for me especially the opening musical number-100 million miracles - it was awful and the set looked so cheap and phony .
MGM was the main one and may have a couple more early titles. Funny they were the last ones to go to sound and then was not sold on CinemaScope. As good as they were they just did not seem to grasp new technology.Peter Apruzzese said:Thanks Rob and Allen, I had a feeling I was forgetting some titles.
I love FLOWER DRUM SONG as well and actually like the phoniness of the soundstage exteriors. Unlike some of the other R&H musicals, it's a light, breezy comedy, and as produced by Ross Hunter, the numbers play like something you'd see on a TV variety show. In fact, much of the movie has the feel of a very opulently produced TV spectacular. The sets play into that feeling and enhance it, and given the fact that's it's a true musical comedy with the emphasis firmly on comedy, I have no problem with it at all.cinerama10 said:FLOWER DRUM SONG is a much underrated musical that deserves to be seen on bluray. A pity that the outdoor scenes were filmed indoors on a sound stage. That ruined to film for me especially the opening musical number-100 million miracles - it was awful and the set looked so cheap and phony .