The promise of an Apple TV (1 Viewer)

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Apple tv has a fair amount of catching up to do to compete with Roku 3, but now this:


http://www.dayherald.com/roku-4-set-to-demolish-its-rivals-includes-internal-antenna-for-improved-signal-strength/4372/



"Reports indicate that Roku 4 has been under development for quite some time and the company is just waiting for the most opportune moment to launch this device in the market. Rumors suggest that this device will be released during this fall."

 

[Sam Posten]

Do you honestly believe there is any company in the world that has an advanced product ready to roll, designed, produced in mass quantities, packaged and sores in warehouses, that waits until the mood strikes it right? Sounds pretty dumb to me.

 

[DaveF]

Do you honestly believe there is any company in the world that has an advanced product ready to roll, designed, produced in mass quantities, packaged and sores in warehouses, that waits until the mood strikes it right? Sounds pretty dumb to me.

Isn't that what has been rumored about the AppleTV? They were thought to announce it earlier, then held off because the deals weren't in place.

If you were Roku, do you announce before Apple (get initial buzz and then forgotten) or after (hope to get buzz in case new ATV is a disappointment, and ride that to Xmas.?

 

[Sam Posten]

You know my feelings on rumors . That said I don't recall any channel checks that said mass quantities were being built pre WWDC and holding for partner readiness is not in the same league as waiting for consumer acceptance.

 

[[email protected]]

I think the difference is, Roku is already the top dog right now. No need to rush out the newest model, wait and see what the competition comes up with?


http://www.parksassociates.com/blog/article/pr-aug2015-steaming-media-landscape

 

[DaveF]

You know my feelings on rumors . That said I don't recall any channel checks that said mass quantities were being built pre WWDC and holding for partner readiness is not in the same league as waiting for consumer acceptance.

Fair enough.


But I can see some potential wisdom in having your new product read, in stock, and waiting a month to time the launch perfectly.


Or, try this on for size (since I'm spinning tales): Roku had the launch date set for this Fall, but development or manufacturing yields were better than expected. They were stocked for launch earlier sooner than planned, but have chosen to stay with their marketing plans.

 

[Sam Posten]

Not buying it. The story or a Roku itself unless there is something spectacular about the new one.

 

[Sam Posten]

Trust this man, he's pre-med!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/27/apple-is-about-to-lay-down-its-tv-cards/#.aqbup9:454X

 

[DaveF]

Gruber on Gurman on ATV
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2015/09/02/gurman-apple-tv

Price increase? Multiple memory choices? A little un-Apple-like confusion?

 

[Sam Posten]

Or maybe it's just rumors!

 

[DaveF]

Rumors are Truth. Truth are rumors. Undelivered dreams are failures to achieve.

 

[Sam Posten]

We have always been at war with Eurandroid.

 

[[email protected]]

Really like the thought of a hard drive that is rumored to be in the new Apple tv, something my Roku players are lacking. Would like to see 3D support along with 4K (why we need the hard drive) I really don't care what brand my next streamer is, I only care how it functions. Most of all though it has to be more of an open system than the current Apple tv. A must would be an app store with ALL the other movie channels like Vudu. Roku has tremendous app support. I think there are over 2000 regular apps and probably that many more private channels. It's true that 90% of us would only use a fraction of those but, choice is nice and people have different tastes. Yesterdays new channel on Roku was exploitation tv, not my cup of tea but there will be those who like it. Exploitation is another private channel. Hopefully Apple raises the bar comes out with something more than an itunes player.

 

[DaveF]

I think there's not a hard drive, but up to 16 GB flash ram (like in your iPhone)

Really like the thought of a hard drive that is rumored to be in the new Apple tv, something my Roku players are lacking. Would like to see 3D support along with 4K (why we need the hard drive) I really don't care what brand my next streamer is, I only care how it functions. Most of all though it has to be more of an open system than the current Apple tv. A must would be an app store with ALL the other movie channels like Vudu. Roku has tremendous app support. I think there are over 2000 regular apps and probably that many more private channels. It's true that 90% of us would only use a fraction of those but, choice is nice and people have different tastes. Yesterdays new channel on Roku was exploitation tv, not my cup of tea but there will be those who like it. Exploitation is another private channel. Hopefully Apple raises the bar comes out with something more than an itunes player.

That "hard drive" might not be what you're hoping for. It's modest storage for apps, maybe a limited selection of local music or a recently purchased movie.

“While the new Apple TV will include an App Store for deep support for gaming, sources say that the limited storage offered by 8GB and 16GB flash memory is appropriate for the new model, as all content outside of applications will be streamed directly from the Internet. ”

http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/02/apple-tv-4-2015-specs/

 

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I think there's not a hard drive, but up to 16 GB flash ram (like in your iPhone)
That "hard drive" might not be what you're hoping for. It's modest storage for apps, maybe a limited selection of local music or a recently purchased movie.

“While the new Apple TV will include an App Store for deep support for gaming, sources say that the limited storage offered by 8GB and 16GB flash memory is appropriate for the new model, as all content outside of applications will be streamed directly from the Internet. ”

http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/02/apple-tv-4-2015-specs/

Might be enough? I'm use to streaming most everything but, with 4K video I'm not sure I'll have enough bandwidth so even enough to download a movie at a time might work ok.

 

[Clinton McClure]

I barely have enough bandwidth to stream SD content. 4k streaming is something that will never happen here. Ever.

 

[DaveF]

Might be enough? I'm use to streaming most everything but, with 4K video I'm not sure I'll have enough bandwidth so even enough to download a movie at a time might work ok.

The AppleTV is also rumored to *not* support 4k.

 

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The AppleTV is also rumored to *not* support 4k.

That would be surprising to me. I think the newest streamers coming out have been supporting 4K. Apple needs to stop following and lead the way like they use too. If it doesn't have 4K it will not only be not following....just falling behind.

 

[DaveF]

That would be surprising to me. I think the newest streamers coming out have been supporting 4K. Apple needs to stop following and lead the way like they use too. If it doesn't have 4K it will not only be not following....just falling behind.

Well, people don't seemed particularly enthused about 4k TVs. And there's minimal 4k content; mostly a few shows from Netflix. There doesn't seem to be a rush to release a 4k streaming box. If Apple doesn't do it this year, and 4k starts taking off, they can refresh the model next year or the year after as needed with 4k support.

 

[DaveF]

Which is not to say that you're wrong or they won't have 4k That's not something I'm personally interested in right now. I'm more interested in the AppleTV for occasional music in the house and showing photos and silly things like that. I've got a Tivo for streaming and TV.