todd s
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I am still not convinced Bertram is Red John.
As I posted earlier in this thread (I believe), Haffner has always been my 'goto' choice for Red John, since I find the character so unlikeable. For what it is worth, that episode (Season 5, episode 13 The Red Barn) made me strongly suspicious of Haffner. I think this was the episode that caused Jane to add Haffner to his list of Red John suspects.FoxyMulder said:I saw an earlier episode, the one where they find the Red John smiley on a barn which used to belong to Visualize, Lisbon asks Haffner if he was ever there, mentioning to him that Haffner would have been 21 at the time, Haffner walks out of the room, i think Haffner is Red John.
It was announced that the FBI guy was going to be a new full time cast member. I wonder if they will fold CBI into the FBI.Walter Kittel said:A few random observations... Based on the preview for next week, I tend to agree that Bertram is not Red John. Perhaps the main story line after Red John will be dismantling the Blake Association. (?) If so, maybe C-Note (from Prison Break) is joining the cast, or at least will appear in a recurring role. Is the coded document a list of members of the organization? - Walter.
I'd like to fold that FBI guy a few times.todd s said:It was announced that the FBI guy was going to be a new full time cast member. I wonder if they will fold CBI into the FBI.
That certainly seems logical. I know that when Bob Kirkland revealed to Jane that he was hunting Red John I had a bit of a cognitive disconnect between that statement and his/his twins? actions in the hospital.After all this time, though, I still can't believe he really is Red John. I think Kirkland's brother is a better choice. I really don't think it was Kirkland who killed that guy in the hospital. That guy had information on Red John and there is no way that Kirkland would have just killed him without getting information out him. Therefore it had to be his twin brother. At the very least the twin has to still be around and still a follower of Red John.
I'm not certain how much you will see in the earlier seasons since I believe it was only decided within the last year or so which suspect would turn out to be Red John, as per this article (first paragraph)...I couldn't believe Jane was taken in for a minute by that suspicious woman walking down the aisle; I certainly wasn't. But the twist was great and the resolution satisfying. Will make me want to revisit earlier seasons to see the real Red John hiding behind his mask in his episodes.
1. Sheriff McAlister was first seen in episode 2 of season 1 (the first episode after the pilot).Johnny Angell said:I wearied of RJ and haven't watched the show for about a year. I've got some questions:
1) I've read the articles linked to above. Did RJ only appear in season 1 as the sheriff? We never saw him again?
2) Are they really going in a new direction? Are they really going to dump the CBI cast?
3) Have the creators of the show promised that RJ is really dead?
I found it interesting that RJ turned out to be a sniveling coward, begging for his life. I would have thought he would have had more substance.
How long has it been ok for the hero to kill in cold-blood? There was a day when a baddie could not die at the intentional efforts of the hero. It had to be an accident or at least unintended. Anyone remember the first show to do this? Jane has now done this twice. When he killed Bradley and he wasn't RJ, that's when I really started to get tired of RJ.
The Mentalist did fall into the old saw of the villain allowing the victim to approach him closely, to actually hand him something. If I ever become an arch-villian I ain't allowing no hero to get close to me.
Is Rigsby still married to the prosecutor? I recall they had a kid.
When Bertram was shot I almost laughed the way he played it. It was like a kid who was poked in the ribs, "heeyyy, why'd you do that?"