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The Lion wakes tonight

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Sam Posten, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Sam Posten

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    For those that missed it, Developers get a new preview of Lion and all signs are pointing to it being incredibly stable and seriously badass already.


    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/02/24macosx.html


    http://developer.apple.com/technologies/mac/whats-new.html


    http://www.macstories.net/news/first-screenshots-and-details-of-mac-os-x-lion/


    http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/apple-pushes-out-mac-os-x-lion-developer-preview-release/


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/24/apple_releases_preview_of_mac_os_x_10_7_lion_with_airdrop_filevault.html


    http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/24/os-x-lion-preview/
     
  2. Sam Posten

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    Looks like a nasty bug:

    http://www.tuaw.com/2011/02/24/bad-kitty-bug-demonstrated-in-lion/
     
  3. Michael_K_Sr

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    Ha...it's the first developer preview and some dope is going to post something on YouTube like the sky is falling.
     
  4. Sam Posten

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    To be fair that does seem like a pretty annoying bug.


    Anywho...


    Ars initial thoughts (No siracusa on this one)

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/02/what-we-know-about-mac-os-x-lion-so-far.ars


    TRIM support added for SSDs (Good news!)

    http://www.cultofmac.com/os-x-lion-adds-essential-function-to-help-preserve-ssds/83662
     
  5. Ted Todorov

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    Argh! Apple Insider is reporting that Apple is dropping Front Row from Lion.

    Please contact Apple and tell them not to:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/
     
  6. Todd H

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    Looks I'm out of luck as far as Lion goes. Word is it requires at least a Core 2 Duo Mac, which means my first gen Core Duo iMac won't be compatible. :(
     
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    I always thought it was... unfortunate that there were a few 32-bit Intel systems at first. For whatever reason they decided not to wait until 64-bit Core 2 for their switch to Intel. For a while, that meant four different builds (PPC-32, PPC-64, Intel-32, Intel-64) for Universal Binary, and now this. Now going forward, only 64-bit Intel -- until maybe ARM comes into the picture.
     
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    You can swap processors on the first gen iMac and replace it with a Core 2 Duo chip. I've thought about doing this and prolonging the ol' girl's lifespan. It's a tricky procedure. I've already had it apart a few times doing upgrades so it doesn't scare me. Still, it's already maxed out with 2 GB of RAM, which I imagine would be pushing it as far as Lion goes. I'll probably just eBay it and pick up the new Mac Mini. I originally planned on upgrading to the new iMac but right now I can't swing that financially. I think the Mini would do until I do some more consulting work later this year and buy a new iMac. Then I can just turn the Mini into a server. :)
     
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  10. Carlo Medina

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    Copied from my iMac/Mac Pro anticipation thread:


    This is more Lion related than hardware related but there is a rumor that Front Row is going away. I'd really like to see Apple create a front-end to iTunes that lets you take full advantage of iTunes' capabilities (album art, genius playlists, full navigation) so those of us who have an extra Mac laptop or mini can use it as an HTPC/media/music server. A full functioned remote, or an app for an iPhone that simulates a full function remote (with ability to fully control iTunes and of its functionality) would be a double-bonus.


    I've liked the idea of Front Row for a while, but have been very unhappy with the functionality of the actual product. Whatever replaces Front Row should give you all access to iTunes functionality. Something as simple as changing the music to which a slideshow is presented shouldn't require workarounds. And there should be a good remote solution (whether standalone or an app for Touch/iPad/iPhone) which should make full control of the features possible and easy.



     
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    VERY VERY long shot. Speculation that the Apple Stores are moving to Lion this weekend. Could Apple shock the world and be prepping to release Lion via digital download weeks before WWDC? Signs say NO but something is definitely cooking in the retail stores this weekend.


    http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/20/apples-daily-download-internal-ipad-news-app-for-retail-store-employees-revealed/
     
  12. Carlo Medina

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    IIRC, given how the latest dev build of Lion still had a bunch of bugs (some in the very basic features like the options when you right clicked on the desktop) I'd be shocked AND awed if they moved to Lion this weekend.


    Still it wouldn't be the first time Jobs & Co. surprised the world...
     
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    I am sooooo impatient for Lion.


    That revamped email is worth the upgrade alone.

    Been a long time since Apple cared about doing

    something with their email and it just looks wonderful.


    The only problem is, a lot of software manufacturers

    still don't have compatible upgrades ready. Two big

    programs I use, 1Password and SnapzXPro don't even

    have betas for Lion yet.


    I doubt Lion will be available this soon with the recent

    reports leaked about bugs. However, I do hope we won't

    have to wait past June to get our hands on a release.


    Still, what good is Lion if software you own won't work

    on it. I mean, I could use one of the Lion OS X betas

    I have had for weeks now, but the programs I need to use

    daily just won't work on it.


    Usually it can take weeks after a new MAC OS introduction

    for the software companies to catch up.


    Oh, while I am here....


    If you can't wait for a better mail experience I do recommend

    SPARROW MAIL. It is as close as you can get to the new

    Apple Mail experience. Really superb email program.
     
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    Assuming current Adobe software won't be compatible, like with the snow leopard upgrade, we won't upgrade for a year.
     
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    As sucky as 5.5 is you arent missing anything.
     
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    As we now know, the secretive hubbub was swapping printed product signs for dedicated iPad product signs.
     
  17. Carlo Medina

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    Sam - can you elaborate? I was getting set to buy 5.5 with my (hopefully) new Mac when the Pro is refreshed, but now your comment gives me pause.


    Thanks!

     
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    I NEVER upgrade to a new OS until at least the .3 version is out. Way too much to work out and most let those without critical needs try it first anyway. Also, the best thing about waiting at least 6 months or so after it is out is some software has a chance to catch up. It is something I don't upgrade to unless the key programs I use are fully supported and that takes time.
     
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    With WWDC only a few weeks away, I would expect Lion

    to be ready to go by the end of June.


    ...at least that is my hope.


    I also agree that it can take months for all the software

    developers to catch up, even though beta copies were

    available for them to test months prior to release.
     
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    With 10.6, I found the software I used was updated promptly. Even Logitech got their act together within six months. But Adobe required an upgrade to the newest CS version for 10.6 compatibility. At nearly $1000 for Adobe software, even a $29 OS upgrade is very expensive for my wife's computer. And for simplicity, I don't know that I'll upgrade my laptop to keep them in sync.


    Perhaps Adobe won't be user hostile with the 10.7 upgrade. If so, I'll upgrade both computers sooner than later.
     

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