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Directors The DEVELOPMENT HELL TOURNAMENT (The Greatest Films that were never made)

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Jim_K, Aug 16, 2003.

  1. Jim_K

    Jim_K Executive Producer

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    THE DEVELOPMENT HELL TOURNAMENT
    (The Greatest Films that were never made)


    WHAT IF ……..? That is the question. Have you ever read about a film project (past or present) that got mired in Development Hell? Proposed films that if they ever got off the ground could’ve resulted in something special. A concept for a film that could’ve possibly joined the ranks of greatest films of all time. Lost films that regrettably you’ll never be able to see on the silver screen.

    Rules: Eligible films MUST have some basis of fact that it was ever considered to be made into a feature film. No film ideas that just sprung up from your own fertile imaginations please.

    Be descriptive:
    Title, source material, Director, actors, writer, etc. Brief summary is a must!

    I’ll start things out with a couple of automatics (I’ll add more if I see there’s any interest in this tournament)


    MASTER LIST







    Everyone has 2 Automatics
     
  2. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    The follow-up to Who Framed Roger Rabbit? I don't remember the details right now, but I'll take to elaborate later.
     
  3. Angelo.M

    Angelo.M Producer

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    Not sure if these fit your criteria...

    Watchmen
    Director: Terry Gilliam was linked to this for a long time; M. Night Shayamalan and Darren Aranovsky have also been mentioned.
    Original source material: Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon's graphic novel, Watchmen, published by DC.
    Rumored actors: ?
    Summary: Anything but your typical 'superhero' story; an intricate, entertaining deconstruction of the standard 'superhero' myth using characters that resemble heroes from the Golden Age of comics.
    Other screen adaptations: None; Pixar's The Invincibles, due next year, may be the humorous version, and likely just as brilliant.

    The Man Who Killed Don Quixote
    Director: Terry Gilliam, again!
    Original source material: Take a guess...
    Rumored actors: Johnny Depp, Jean Rochefort (Quioxte)
    Summary: A time-traveller (Depp) meets an elderly Quixote. Hilarity ensues.
    Other screen adaptations: Don Quixote has been filmed many times. Gilliam's struggles to make the film are documented in the film Lost in La Mancha.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    Great idea!


    My autos:

    Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon

    The great director had long planned on making an epic film covering the life of Napoleon Bonaparte. The story on that is apparently going to be published. Go here for details.


    Orson Welles' adaptation of Don Quixote

    Welles never completed this film though Jess Franco (of all people) "finished" it for him. Go here for details. Some of the Welles footage can be seen in the documentary Lost in La Mancha.


    Some suggestions:

    I believe Welles had planned on adapting Heart of Darkness but it never came to fruition.

    George Romero's original version of Day of the Dead which wasn't filmed due to budget constraints. I hear the screenplay for this version is available on the new DVD edition of DOTD. This one's kind of iffy but if ya need filler...

    David Fincher's Rendezvous With Rama. What happened to this?


    Angelo: good call on Watchmen.
     
  5. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    I'm torn for my second choice between The Blind Man, a Hitchcock / Jimmy Stewart thriller and The Godfather film that never got made that was about the years between Part 2 (the DeNiro story) and the beginning of Part 1. The film would have focused on Sonny. Although I have to admit also being intrigued with the original idea for Star Trek 6, called Starfleet Academy about Kirk's days there.
     
  6. Kirk Tsai

    Kirk Tsai Screenwriter

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    Tora Tora Tora!
    Directors: Akira Kurosawa and David Lean
    The troublesome shoot of the film was one of the dark chapters in Akira Kurosawa's career. What was originally proposed to him by Fox, however, was that he would direct the Japanese portion of the film, with Mr. David Lean directing the American sequences.

    Current version: directed by Richard Fleischer and Kinji Fukasaku, the film now has some good battle sequences, but reveals nothing about Pearl Harbor that we do not know.

    The Seige of Leningrad
    Director: Sergio Leone
    Leone died in 1989 preparing the story of Leningrad during WWII. It was to be a co-production with the Soviet Union (which I suppose would have fallen out after the fall of the USSR anyhow). But if it were to come true, the USSR probably would have provided massive landscape and human resources to dramatize the historical victory. I think it's safe to assume The Great Ennio Morricone would have scored the film.
     
  7. Jim_K

    Jim_K Executive Producer

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    Excellent choices all around. [​IMG]

    George we need details, details, details. [​IMG]

    Since everyone came up with some great choices I'll up the ante with 2 more automatics for everyone.
     
  8. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    Okay, I'll go with Orson Welles' Heart of Darkness. Apparently he did write a treatment and planned to make the film in 1939. Unfortunately, the start of World War II closed the European market for films and it wasn't thought that Americans could handle the complexities of the story. Welles has also planned to use the camera as the eyes of the narrator so perhaps this unique approach turned off potential investors?

    I realize Welles had many other unrealized projects, but Heart of Darkness was important to him and it certainly would have been an interesting film.


    I'll be back with my second auto...
     
  9. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    I think I'll go with David Fincher's Rendezvous With Rama. I haven't been able to find any current news on the status of this film so I think it's safe to say that it's in "development hell." [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    Here's a few paragraphs from Indiewire about a film Samuel Fuller never completed:


     
  11. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    Argh. Can't believe I forgot this one: Krzysztof Kieslowski's Heaven (the first part of a proposed trilogy) for which he wrote the screenplay but never got the chance to film. Tom Tykwer eventually helmed the project with Cate Blanchett starring.

    Any takers? [​IMG]
     
  12. Jim_K

    Jim_K Executive Producer

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    My next 2 Auto's

    Avatar
    Dir: James Cameron
    Source material : AVATAR - original screenplay written by James Cameron.
    Summary: "Possibly the most beautiful script I’ve ever read. So far Cameron has stuck to earth (well, he did travel off-planet in ALIENS) and we now get to see his vision of an exotic alien world. Where giant panther-like animals lope around the jungle. And a peaceful race of people are being harassed by the humans who have installed an army base there and plan to encroach on their land.
    Cameron describes three epic battles here. If he can truly present this world, as described, and do exactly as he writes, I think it would be the pinnacle of the action genre. Cameron takes the time to develop a tender romance between a female alien and a human-alien hybrid. What happens and how it does (the people are fearful of him at first and later trust him as he proves himself) has been done innumerous times before, but it’s always Cameron’s striking landscape -- his dazzling visuals -- that make everything seem new." - Summary courtesy of Darwin Mayflower at screenwritersutopia.com


    Dune
    Dir: Alejandro Jodorowski
    Source material: Dune by Frank Herbert
    Summary: There were many attempts at making this sci-fi epic. The most impressive would've been Jodorowski's planned 3+ hour version filmed in 70mm. Conceptual artists included H.R. Giger, Jean Giraud a.k.a. Moebius, Dan O'Bannon & Chris Foss. Pre-production started in '75 so it's an interesting notion had this battled Star Wars at the Box-office.
     
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    Ghost Soldiers
    Director: Steven Spielberg
    Cast: Tom Cruise
    Source Material: Based on Hampton Sides' book Ghost Soldiers: The Forgotten Epic Story of World War II's Most Dramatic Mission. First draft of screenplay was written by Josh Friedman.
    Summary:Ghost Soldiers is the name given to those who survived the Bataan Death March of World War II, and were held captive in a Japanese prison camp until ultimately being freed by Allied troops. From inhollywood.com
     
  14. SteveGon

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    Jim: good call on Jodorowski's Dune. I forgot about that one.

    Here's a summary for Rendezvous With Rama:

    An all-time science fiction classic, Rendezvous with Rama is also one of Clarke's best novels--it won the Campbell, Hugo, Jupiter, and Nebula Awards. A huge, mysterious, cylindrical object appears in space, swooping in toward the sun. The citizens of the solar system send a ship to investigate before the enigmatic craft, called Rama, disappears. The astronauts given the task of exploring the hollow cylindrical ship are able to decipher some, but definitely not all, of the extraterrestrial vehicle's puzzles. From the ubiquitous trilateral symmetry of its structures to its cylindrical sea and machine-island, Rama's secrets are strange evidence of an advanced civilization. But who, and where, are the Ramans, and what do they want with humans? Perhaps the answer lies with the busily working biots, or the sealed-off buildings, or the inaccessible "southern" half of the enormous cylinder. Rama's unsolved mysteries are tantalizing indeed.


    Sorry about not posting that sooner - I thought everyone was familiar with the story. [​IMG]


    Here's another suggestion:

    Werner Herzog's original version of Fitzcarraldo, starring Jason Robards and Mick Jagger. After 40% of the film was completed, Robards became seriously ill and was forced to leave the production. Then Jagger had to leave due to another commitment. Herzog had to start over from scratch with Klaus Kinski in the lead. Although the story would basically have been the same, I think the Robards/Jagger version would have been quite different. Some of the unused footage can be seen on the Anchor Bay Fitzcarraldo DVD.
     
  15. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

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    And yet another suggestion. [​IMG]

    David Lynch's Ronnie Rocket:

     
  16. Brook K

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    I don't think that footage is on the Fitzcarraldo DVD is it Steve, unless there's a easter egg? The footage is included in Herzog's documentary My Best Fiend, and also I believe in Les Blank's Burden Of Dreams.

    Also Jim, Jodorowsky's Dune was going to have music by Pink Floyd!

    Off hand the only one that comes to mind is The Coen Bros. To The White Sea with Brad Pitt. If memory serves he is a bomber pilot during WWII who crash lands in Japan or the Aleutians and doesn't speak the language so he is virtually silent. They couldn't find anyone to finance it.
     
  17. Jim_K

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    [​IMG] Would've fit the film perfectly. [​IMG]

    OK we have 16 films, I know I can think of at least a dozen more but I don't want to hog this tourney. I'll leave this open today to see what we get.

    After that I'll give Steve unlimited auto's then I'll fill in the rest. [​IMG]
     
  18. SteveGon

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  19. Jim_K

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    Against my better judgment I'm going to start this up. As a huge film-geek I guess I'm just overly fascinated by these lost films.

    I've managed to come up with another 48 projects which will bring the field up to 64.

    Vote for the film that interests you more.


    so without any further ado

    ROUND 1

    (Bracket 1)

    The Blind Man
    Dir: Alfred Hitchcock
    Cast: James Stewart
    Source material: Original screenplay by Ernst Lehman (North By Northwest)
    Summary: Blind since birth, a pianist (Stewart) receives a double cornea transplant. The first thing he wants to see is Disneyland. The story take place mostly in the theme park where Stewart discovers that he’s been given the eyes of a murdered man. Stewart attempts to hunt down the killer as the killer is trying to murder him.
    Other trivia: Was planned to be made after Psycho. Walt Disney refused to cooperate after his disgust with Psycho.


    vs.


    Destino
    Dir: Salvador Dali
    Cast: Animation
    Summary: A Walt Disney/Salvador Dali collaboration. Nuff said! [​IMG]
    Other trivia: Planned during the mid 40’s. Test footage was shot but this idea never fully formed into a cohesive structure.

    ---------------------------------------------------


    (Bracket 2)

    Dean Martin a.k.a. Dino
    Dir: Martin Scorsese
    Cast:Tom Hanks(Dean Martin), John Travolta(Sinatra), Hugh Grant(Peter Lawford), Adam Sandler(Joey Bishop), Jim Carrey(Jerry Lewis)
    Source material: Original screenplay by Nicholas Pileggi (Goodfellas)
    Summary: Take a guess!
    Other trivia: Was planned to be made in the late 90’s. Fell apart because Scorsese couldn’t get his “dream cast”.

    vs.

    Napoleon
    Dir: Stanley Kubrick
    Cast: Jack Nicholson(Napoleon)
    Summary: Epic Bio of Napoleon. Kubrick planned expansive battle scenes & looked for a country to loan out their army.
    Other trivia: Was planned right after 2001:ASO. Was a bit too ambitious & costly for UA who pulled the financing. A competing film Waterloo didn’t help either.
     
  20. Ric Bagoly

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    The Blind Man

    Dean Martin-actually the title was to be simply Dino
     

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