The only way it will work for me is they take the story to the future right after judgment day and during the war. Other than that the whole going back in time thing is old.
It can work, but they really have to zero in on what made Batman Begins and Casino Royale work -- a willingness to shake up the formula and to get the right script + director + cast on board.
Despite what is said here, the backers of the film might be nervous if Arnold is not in it. He was always the breadwinner in this series to reach out to mainstream audiences. Maybe they can do a computer generated Arnold so he doesn't have to appear in it. Otherwise the direction most desired in this thread sounds like the kind of development a TV series would have, like Stargate. If these films were to continue, they need a larger than life star, or I find it hard to believe it can turn a profit, unless it goes direct to DVD, IMO.
It's even more difficult if the time is set at the war. You would need to see many Arnolds.
And perhaps they can make Arnold Governor of one of the states, casually, or President of the US, to explain why his face was chosen for the terminator model.
(And another angle: Isaac Asimov explains in one of his short stories how and why a robot can become one of the best Presidents the US ever had.)
But, more serious: I agree, Arnold was the one constant factor in all Terminator movies and it simply won't be the same without him.
I admit that the James Bond notion was a bit of a joke. But I stand by the other four. The Terminator movie is different from the other three, but somehow, I'm afraid it will be empty without that T800-series model.
But why would he need to come back in the movie as a machine?
Maybe Skynet isn't all machines, as we were told in the previous stories. Perhaps there is a human involved. Perhaps even against his will. Maybe terminator machines were made in his likeness.
Really reluctant to bring this up but with Live Free or Die Hard getting slapped with a PG-13 I have a sick feeling in my gut they'll pull the same thing with T4. :frowning:
Given the limitations of the T-800 appearing again and again, an all-out future-war movie might not be a bad way to continue the Terminator stories.
You were saying...
(apologies, I didn't read this thread when it was first started...)
I would guess that as an elected executive official, he couldn't take on any other paying job at all, being a conflict of interest as well as taking time away from what is a full-time job. A cameo appearance that took a day to shoot might be acceptable (McCain in Wedding Crashers?), but as lead star, probably not. Although Fred Dalton Thomson signed on for Law & Order before his term as senator had ended, although he was already on his way out, not having sought re-election.
I wasn't a fan of T3 so my recollections may be foggy but wasn't that all PG-13 level violence except for the girl Terminator stabbing someone through a driver's seat. And I thought I heard that they reshot that scene to make sure they'd get an R rating. Yeah, they went for the R but adding violence solely to get an R (and cater to your demographic) is just as phony as editing the movie to avoid an R in my mind.