Sony sued over copy-protected CDs (1 Viewer)

[Thomas Newton]

Here's more cute stuff -- from an EFF analysis of Sony's so-called EULA

 

[Rachael B]

Shouldn't the buggers have to put all 3000 words of the user "leasing aggreement":frowning: on the outside cover of every mutant CD? I'm just holding my breath waiting for Music Stores to be replaced by Sonic Leasing Centres!

I just love the little, adorable, end part they called "General". It was so purr-fectly redundant! In a nutty-shell, we're gonna enforce any sections that aren't specificly struck down in court, duh! :frowning:

 

[Jay_B!]

what is the purpose of making copy-protected cd's in an era where ipods have replaced discmans for people?

 

[Manus]

Good. I'm tired of Sony's underhanded tricks. I gave up on this company back around 1999 and now you will not find one Sony product in my home

Me too ! Sony is indeed a 4-letter word. I've spent the last 5 years trying to convince every friend,colleague and family member I know to give up on these b*****ds. The corporation has become so obese that different departments within disagree and fight each other all the time.

For their own reasons Sony won't play Dvd-A but they do think robotic dogs have a multi-million dollar future. I'm actually quite disappointed that Bluray looks like winning the next format war.50 or 100 gb of Sony-sponsored sh**e is not something I would look forward to having to wade through.

Their complete lack of respect for all their legitimate customers is an insult to intelligence.I come from a Sony-free household and will endeavour to create many more.

~M~

 

[ChrisMatson]

Microsoft to the rescue???


http://news.com.com/Microsoft+will+w...l?tag=nefd.top

 

[Ted Todorov]

Boycott Sony & Blu-ray until they at least issue a public apology and promise to never again try something like this.

Ted

 

[Ted Todorov]

P.S. On the copy protected CDs I've seen (and there was a picture in today's NY Times (the business section has an article, but the picture is not online)) of the back of one, that clearly says "Mac: OK" -- implying that Mac users will not be affected.

Ted

 

[Fatima Fredrick]

I heard an interview on CBC with the computer specialist from Austin who discovered the issue. He talks about the issue on his blog at: sysinternals.com/blog . His name is Mark Russinovich

 

[David Stone]

Amen! I'm still peeved at Sony myself over their Draconian protection methods. My last VHS tape purchase (years ago) was the Sony produced "Riverdance" (the original). There is so much macrovision anti-copyguard on the tape that my Hitachi VCR won't play it. After several exchanges and proving it wasn't my VCR, I still don't have a watchable purchase.

My VCR still plays every other tape we've ever bought, so I'm not about to invest in a new player at this stage of the game. What sux the most is that Sony hasn't released this program on DVD.

 

[Phil A]

And they keep getting more press:

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/

 

[MarkHastings]

Damn! Doesn't this sound like a "Finders Keepers/Losers Weepers" statement??????

The one thing that I don't get is, they say "you no longer possess the original CD", which they must mean that since you don't own it anymore, you aren't allowed to keep the copies of it.

While I understand what they're trying to get at...why does this not sound right? It almost sounds like, if someone steals something of yours, it's no longer considered yours. Doesn't that sound wrong? I may not be in possession of it, but it's still mine!

I guess what they are doing is separating the difference between possession and ownership, where the loss of possession is enough to negate ownership.

I wonder if this would work if I stole a car? If I steal someones car, do they no longer own it because they are no longer in possession of it?

And what about the stolen CD's? If I steal a bunch of CD's, do I get to keep them? Once they are stolen, they are no longer considered "owned" by anyone, so I'm not stealing. The cops can't arrest me? right?

 

[ThomasC]

From the Washington Post blog Phil linked to:

I sure hope so.

Even more, it seems that the rootkit infringes on copyright as well: http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/90b...3d6/index.html

 

[TheLongshot]

Actually, this case would never happen, because you aren't allowed to put an audio CD into your computer. Also, on a lot of secure systems, the workstations lock down the CD drive.

If you did, and something like this happened, you'd be the one responsible, since it is against policy.

Now, on corporate machines, this could be an issue.

Jason

 

[dpippel]

The juggernaut keeps rolling along:

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8DT2K9O0.html

The program that Sony is distributing to remove their rootkit is actually leaving systems it runs on even MORE vulnerable to attack than the rootkit itself. Apparently the company is going to issue a recall for all CDs that contain the rootkit code. One can only hope that the fallout from this fiasco will nail the XCP coffin SHUT.

 

[dpippel]

This may be true, but if the damage is done it's done. Assigning blame to an employee after the fact won't pull sensitive data that's already been compromised out of a hackers hands. It's done.

 

[Thomas Newton]

According to USA Today - Sony to pull controversial CDs, offer swap:

 

[Craig S]

The Great State of Texas is suing Sony/BMG under its new anti-spyware law:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

As they say in the ads... Don't Mess With Texas!!!

 

[Marc Colella]

@ Sony

 

[Artur Meinild]

Yeah, it's really nice to see the big companies set a good example for all of us when it comes to music and piracy

Sony has now shown everyone the way.

According to their philosophy it's OK to install insecure software on a persons PC without telling them.
It's OK to use open source software without acknowledging the license.
It's OK when you are caught out, at first, to deny everything and try to lie your way out of it.

If we all follow Sonys example it's OK to do anything we want with music and software... Because their actions (which speak louder than words) have shown that it's OK to do whatever you want as long as you don't get caught.

Sony will burn in hell for this...

 

[MarkHastings]

SO true Artur! I never thought of it like that before. For all the rage over piracy, SONY sure doesn't mind figthing illegal acts with their own illegal acts :rolleyes

p.s. I was going to buy 2 CD's this past weekend. I bought one, but put the other back because I saw the anti-theft BMG/SONY logo on the back.

Another lost sale for SONY! :p)