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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by paul h, Nov 26, 2001.
Down to 29,800 yen or £169 or $250 ish!
Speaking of which, Romier, do we call our wager a draw?
Nice, very nice. A $50 price drop in the U.S. would make it a serious contender for my post-Christmas dollars, when I'll be springing for my next-gen console.
People are still buying PS2s at $300 in America, so Sony doesn't want to lower the price. If its still that profitable, then they have no reason to make it less profitable.
That price drop probably won't come until next spring or summer.
I understand that, Morgan. But consistently (I live in Los Angeles) PS2s are the only consoles out there that I can readily find. Sure if I look hard enough I'll find an XBox or GCN - I'm not because I'm not going to buy until the new year. But after a half-dozen Best Buys and Targets, the only thing I see readily available is PS2s, they are in abundance here.
Maybe Sony won't drop the price, all that means is that the PS2 will fall further down my list. As I've said, all three have games I want to play. So it will come down to the little things, like price, quality of bundle packages (at Costco, mainly), accessories, that kind of thing. I would put my $300 on an XBox before a PS2, but I realize the PS2 "does more" than a GCN (DVD playback). So I think a fair price would be $249.
Just my $.02
nah..not yet joel...well wait until January 1st my friend. If nothing pans out and the PS2 is till 300 in the US...you win. Its only fair. If you do win you get to choose a DVD (Go easy on me!)
The thing is, even if the PS2 goes to $250 here, it's still not as good a value as XBox for two very big reasons: hard drive and ethernet. Those are two future addons for the PS2, and buying the console with those addons will be well over $300.
Then again, what good is the ethernet? You can get a USB adapter for PS2 (that you might just so happen to use) and go online RIGHT NOW but the X-Box isn't online until next year.
The HDD is neat, but two PS2 memory cards will last you through the whole console's life span, plus you can use them to save PSX files (not save, more like store).
Plus, the PS2 plays PSX games. That is a MAJOR feature in the "good games" department.
I'm not saying the X-Box sucks or anything, just that the features for each is worth the price.
I barely even filled up half of a memory card. Sports games can take up space, and TimeSplitters maps take up a lot of room, but if you delete the right stuff and save the right stuff, you should be able to conserve more.
Personally, I think Sony will market holiday PS2 sales at $299 for all they're worth, and then, quietly, sometime in early 2002, drop the price. My guess is they are/were banking on a lackluster Xbox launch and not overly concerned with Nintendo. If Sony wanted to drop the price, they certainly could have, just like they did in Europe and Japan (twice!). Sony's chairman, after all, completely wrote off the Xbox after Microsoft's weak showing at E3.
How all this will play out remains to be seen. All I know is that it's pretty much the same scene in every store I walk into. There are plenty of PS2s available and few or no GameCubes and Xboxes. If Microsoft and Nintendo can produce enough and keep enough product on store shelves, Sony's holiday sales may not be quite as rosy as they anticipated.
Don't get me wrong, Sony is selling TONS of software, but with their conservative approach to hardware sales (gross margin vs. sales volume), instead of slamming the door shut on its competitors, they have left it open a crack...
You guys also have to keep in mind that it's not easy to ramp up production on a console.
Sony is now able to manufacture PS2 in huge quantities. Last year at this time, they were having a lot of trouble.
Similarly, both Microsoft and Nintendo can't manufacture enough consoles to satisfy US demand in the short term.
THAT's why you see lots of PS2s at stores and few or no X-Boxes and GameCubes.