Tim Glover
Senior HTF Member
Predator is among my favorite films... Top 30 for sure. No need for 3D.
Even if the 3D depth is good it's still a conversion and still depth only, not really fully utilizing the 3D format, no pop out at all, film grain scrubbed completely away and i happen to think a little bit of film texture is a good thing, this transfer seems based on the ultimate hunter edition of the film, we aren't even getting a new 2D transfer, i'll pass.Cameron Yee said:I read a fairly negative review on both the 2D and 3D quality on that other site.
As I've reported earlier, the folks behind this BluRay were aware of the previous "Ultimate Hunter Edition" BluRay and how the handling of the transfer was, and I quote, "A mistake". I would hold off your bad video transfer assumptions and see the disc for yourself, because from what I was able to see at Comic Con, things do "pop out" at you.FoxyMulder said:Even if the 3D depth is good it's still a conversion and still depth only, not really fully utilizing the 3D format, no pop out at all, film grain scrubbed completely away and i happen to think a little bit of film texture is a good thing, this transfer seems based on the ultimate hunter edition of the film, we aren't even getting a new 2D transfer, i'll pass.
You might be right Ted, but i would rather have a transfer in 3D that puts some film grain back in, as they did with Top Gun, film texture is important for movies shot on 35mm film, i'm not keen on super smooth re-masters for 3D.Ted Van Duyn said:As I've reported earlier, the folks behind this BluRay were aware of the previous "Ultimate Hunter Edition" BluRay and how the handling of the transfer was, and I quote, "A mistake". I would hold off your bad video transfer assumptions and see the disc for yourself, because from what I was able to see at Comic Con, things do "pop out" at you.
Sounds like an ideal candidate for motion smoothing to complete the video look.FoxyMulder said:You might be right Ted, but i would rather have a transfer in 3D that puts some film grain back in, as they did with Top Gun, film texture is important for movies shot on 35mm film, i'm not keen on super smooth re-masters for 3D.
I read the review over at that site, it says this, i am put off, this is not a release for me, i will let others enjoy it.
The look of the image here is now much more consistent with HD video than film—it's certainly (relatively) bright and colorful, but there's virtually no grain to be seen anywhere in either the 2D or 3D rendering. Even in filtered scenes, where one would expect to see lots of grain, there simply isn't any.
There is admittedly some unexpectedly nice depth added to the jungle sequences, which of course make up the bulk of the film.
But a lot of this film is still relentlessly dark, even though this version has an obviously brighter overall look than the first release. This in and of itself robs some scenes of dimensionality, with only minimal protrusion of foreground objects and similarly lackluster depth penetrating into the image. That said, there are some nicely effective moments in the film, like the first "camo" appearance of the Predator, which comes at the viewer like some fractal hallucination for a moment before the "thermo-imaging" point of view footage takes over.
Overall, this is neither the botch job some have predicted nor the masterpiece that some early previewers insisted was coming our way.