1. Guest,
    If you need help getting to know Xenforo, please see our guide here. If you have feedback or questions, please post those here.
    Dismiss Notice

Person of Interest Season 2

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Cameron Yee, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    1,294
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    In the first season, it was also established that the Machine refers the "relevant" cases to the appropriate authorities by subtly rewriting intelligence reports to lace them with information highlighting the Person of Interest. This was done so that even the people acting on the Machine's intelligence would never entertain the thought that there was a Machine. Obviously, the Program that Shaw worked for has been cutting out that elaborate middle man and grabbing information directly from the source. We know that Root's boss at the Office for Special Counsel is one of the few people alive aware of the Machine's existence, and we know that he oversaw the Program as well. It's possible that whatever direct access he has is as limited as Finch's own access. One gets the impression that the Program isn't exactly on the books. On the other hand, it's possible that the Program gets a great deal more information than that, and only chooses to give its operatives a SSN. It also raises the plot question: how does the machine handle foreign nationals that aren't American citizens and thus don't possess a social security number?
     
  2. Josh Dial

    Josh Dial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2000
    Messages:
    2,758
    Likes Received:
    92
    Real Name:
    Josh Dial
    That opens up the possibility of a very scary "next phase" of the program: the machine actually has information on ALL citizens, regardless of which state they are a citizen of. Plot threads abound!
     
  3. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    1,294
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    How can it not, and still function effectively? We live in a globalized world, and limiting its reach to Americans would create gaps in its information web so large as to render it useless. And considering the Machine already operates in blatant violation of every American's Fourth Amendment rights, it's not like the law's holding it back.
     
  4. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Well-Known Member
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    11,289
    Likes Received:
    505
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    It's been fun following Shahi's roles since her small part in "Alias." Her part as Shaw reminds me a bit of her time on "Life."
     
  5. Yee-Ming

    Yee-Ming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2002
    Messages:
    4,345
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    "on a little street in Singapore"
    Real Name:
    Yee Ming Lim
    It clearly must, given that Shaw and Cole were operating in Berlin, against people who were not Americans. Or at least I would assume they weren't, given that the two guys Shaw was following initially were speaking German, and wondering how "the Americans" were onto them.
    I'd think the process is already starting: she said as much to the "special counsel" (can't remember his name) that they hired her precisely because she doesn't care, then they go and kill the one person she actually did care (a bit) about. It would be interesting to see "another Reese" join the team, precisely if she's 'rough around the edges' compared to him and doesn't have his scruples about not unnecessarily killing antagonists. I got the impression she was both puzzled (as to who did it) and bemused when she left her initial ambush and found the rest of the 'hit team' out in the street incapacitated yet not dead.
    Brilliant stuff. POI is easily my favourite show on TV today.
     
  6. schan1269

    schan1269 HTF Expert
    HW Reviewer

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    17,038
    Likes Received:
    894
    Location:
    Chicago-ish/NW Indiana
    Real Name:
    Sam
    I just thought of something that was brought up in the prior post...and why another agent is brought in... It could be that the "muscle" of the show is supposed to die every once in a while. Caviezel is a bit "big for TV"... So maybe his penchant for not-killing bites him one day when somebody fakes being hurt worse than they are. Won't be the first TV show to do in a major character and bring in another. Sometimes it is in the sake of "keeping it real".
     
  7. Yee-Ming

    Yee-Ming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2002
    Messages:
    4,345
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    "on a little street in Singapore"
    Real Name:
    Yee Ming Lim
    Forget to mention/ask: I've definitely heard the song before, but for the life of me can't remember what it is and by whom. Help?
    And agree with the points above, best ep so far, and I can see how Shahi works as an undercover operative: many wouldn't consider a petite woman a threat. I liked her in Life, although I didn't follow Fairly Legal (didn't really like the premise).
     
  8. schan1269

    schan1269 HTF Expert
    HW Reviewer

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    17,038
    Likes Received:
    894
    Location:
    Chicago-ish/NW Indiana
    Real Name:
    Sam
    Just in case it doesn't work, for you... The Kills: Future Starts Slow
     
  9. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    28,162
    Likes Received:
    3,868
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    I think it's more to do with them needing a female operative like Reese as they expand their protection schemes and the possible need for more than one weapon expert.
     
  10. Josh Dial

    Josh Dial Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2000
    Messages:
    2,758
    Likes Received:
    92
    Real Name:
    Josh Dial
    Batwoman.
     
  11. Yee-Ming

    Yee-Ming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2002
    Messages:
    4,345
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    "on a little street in Singapore"
    Real Name:
    Yee Ming Lim
    Thanks! Couldn't place it, but after I searched on the title, this was also the theme for Political Animals; don't remember lyrics when it was used there, but the riff is very distinctive, which is what I remembered.
     
  12. schan1269

    schan1269 HTF Expert
    HW Reviewer

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    17,038
    Likes Received:
    894
    Location:
    Chicago-ish/NW Indiana
    Real Name:
    Sam
    Apparently the song was used in The Vampire Diaries as well. Or Secret Circle...or one of those WB shows... WB is "our 5th network" here in the states...
     
  13. Matt Hough

    Matt Hough Well-Known Member
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2006
    Messages:
    13,651
    Likes Received:
    2,388
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Real Name:
    Matt Hough
    A more standard issue episode of the series. I enjoyed it, but I wasn't fooled for a moment. I easily guessed the murderer's identity.
     
  14. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    1,294
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    Me too. It was a simple case of, "who's the least likely person who meets the requirements to be a suspect?" It also seemed like a cheat that the machine didn't just spit out the serial killer's social security number. You can erase your digital footprint and fool people, but you can't fool the Machine. The continuity of surveillance would have allowed the Machine to track the killer even if the digital paper trail never did. It's successfully done so even when the person of interest has been "dead", such as the teenage girl in the second episode of the first season. The only reason not to have the Machine spit out his number is because the And Then There Were None-style mystery at the center of the episode requires the ambiguity. On the other hand, I like the development that Stanton's virus is impairing the ability of the Machine to do its job.
     
  15. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Well-Known Member
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    11,289
    Likes Received:
    505
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    This was an odder episode for the murder mystery elements. It made me wonder if it wasn't meant for Halloween.
     
  16. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    28,162
    Likes Received:
    3,868
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    I doubt it because they mentioned Agent Shaw as to whether Harold has heard anything from her. Also, they talked about the computer virus that Kara uploaded into the government computer system.
    Crawdaddy
     
  17. Matt Hough

    Matt Hough Well-Known Member
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2006
    Messages:
    13,651
    Likes Received:
    2,388
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Real Name:
    Matt Hough
    And Carter wasn't interested in that FBI guy back in October.
     
  18. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Well-Known Member
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    11,289
    Likes Received:
    505
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    All true. I guess I should rephrase and say it seemed better suited as a Halloween episode, though probably would have been too on the nose considering they didn't take that route for Valentine's Day with the episode where the couple put hits out on each other.
     
  19. Dave Scarpa

    Dave Scarpa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 1999
    Messages:
    5,337
    Likes Received:
    43
    I just watched the Shaw episode and I like how they have more or less formed this team, with even Eddie as the Ambulence driver. I wonder if this show will eventually evolve into a more sci fi Skynet angle with both machines threatening to end the world. I can see it going in that direction kinda like Dollhouse did in Season 2
     
  20. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    16,210
    Likes Received:
    1,294
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    I'm confused. By "that FBI guy" do you mean Cal, the (maybe) corrupt NYPD vice detective?
     

Share This Page