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*** Official "FEMME FATALE" Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Peter McM, Oct 30, 2002.

  1. Peter McM

    Peter McM Well-Known Member

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    Rebecca I-can't-spell-or-pronounce-the-rest-of-her-name looks pretty good in the previews.[​IMG]
    Anybody heard anything yet about the inconsequential aspects of this film--such as acting, or plot?[​IMG]
     
  2. Paul_D

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    I heard it got a very bad reception at Venice or Cannes (can't remember where). Sounds ominous. That is all.
     
  3. Thi Them

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    I heard it is De Palma's best in years.

    ~T
     
  4. Peter McM

    Peter McM Well-Known Member

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    Point, counter-point. Could go either way.
     
  5. Damin J Toell

    Damin J Toell Well-Known Member

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    I was rather excited for this months ago, hoping it would finally be DePalma's return to an earlier form. I was quite disappointed, however, in the trailer.

    DJ
     
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    ^ The trailer didn't really do anything for me either. Looked like your standard thriller.

    Todd B
     
  7. Mark Palermo

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    Personally, I can't wait for this film. No living filmmaker makes thrillers like De Palma, and I've stopped listening to trendoid critics who immediately bash all his movies without taking time to understand them. Even Fincher's well-regarded Panic Room played like De Palma-lite.

    Mark
     
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  9. Mark Palermo

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    I don't think Panic Room is especially lighter than most Hitchcock films. It deals with the whole class-prophylaxis issue just as forcefully as a lot of his stuff (to avoid confusion, I still think most Hitchcock films are better). Sure, Psycho, Vertigo, and Frenzy (though it's pretty humorous) are heavier, but De Palma's films are almost always far more merciless thematically. He's taken Hitchcock's influence and grown into a distinguished auteur in his own right.

    Mark
     
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    DePalma is easily one of my favorite directors, as well. I'll be seeing Femme Fatale, which incidentally comes out next Wednesday.
    ~Edwin
     
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    A friend of mine saw "Femme Fatale" at Cannes, and she didn't care much for it. Her and I generally agree when it comes to films, so I don't have such high expectations.
     
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    Is it just me, or is billing DePalma as "the master of the erotic thriller" (as the posters and trailer do) really selling him short?

    I mean, with the exception of Body Double, can his work really be sold that way at all? Or am I just ghettoizing the genre of "erotic thrillers" because of all of those cheap, direct to video/cable Shannon Tweed movies?

    I realize that DePalma's work is frequently very derivative, but when it's good I really enjoy it. Even his best work, I find, requires me to turn my brain off a little more than usual, but when I can, his work packs quite a punch. I remember seeing Raising Cain in the theatre with jet lag, and my not-full-speed brain and I had just the wildest time. Viewing it later, it's kind of obvious and frequently illogical, but what a trip!
     
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    I doubt any Shannon Tweed movies have 5-minute-long uninterrupted steadicam shots. DePalma didn't invent the long steadicam shot, but I think he popularized it, so much so that directors from Scorsese to P.T. Anderson have picked up on it. DePalma himself probably derived it from Orson Welles with Touch of Evil. Watching a DePalma movie, if nothing more, you know that you're going to get two things: female nudity and a really long steadicam shot.
     
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    "Or, rather, Hitchcock-lite (especially given the strong visual references to specific Hitchcock films during the opening titles and the final shot of the film)."

    Damin, I rented Panic Room (I would have bought it, but an SE is coming next year!) a few weeks ago, but when I watched it I wasn't too alert, and so exact shots are a bit fuzzy in my mind. Would you be so kind as to tell me the specific visual references to Hitchcock films Fincher used in the opening and closing scenes and throughout the film, as I can't really recall any. Thanks!
     
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    "you know that you're going to get two things: female nudity....."


    I heard Stamos does a full Frtonal nude scene. Anyone know if that true?
     
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    Her husband is in the movie? [​IMG] To me -- and Conan O'Brien -- he's "Stamos".
    I'm probably gonna go see this regardless. Heck, I saw Snake Eyes.
    //Ken
     
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    Ebert goes against all the negative reviews and gives Femme Fatale [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] .
    ~Edwin
     
  20. Herm C

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    Very good piece on De Palma in today's National Post.
    "I can't think of anything stupider than making Spider-Man 2"
    Can you see the irony??
    Anyways, it is
    here.
     

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