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OAR - Are We Winning the War?

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Michael Martin, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. Michael Martin

    Michael Martin Well-Known Member

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    Reading Ebert's Movie Answer Man column today, and the last Q&A tell how widescreen DVDs are routinely outselling pan&scan versions:

    11-16-2003 Movie Answer Man

    Best quote from the exchange: "Apparently moviegoers now prefer wide-screen to 'full screen' (i.e., cropped pan-and-scan) by such a wide margin that stores are routinely left with piles of unsold full screens." [​IMG]

    I've noticed in the last few Entertainment Weekly top ten selling lists that OAR discs are always - or nearly always - better sellers than pan&scan.

    Is it too early to throw the confetti?
     
  2. Eric Emma

    Eric Emma Well-Known Member

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    Does it matter, as long as companies put out an OAR version for me, I don't care very rarely they haven't.
     
  3. Patrick McCart

    Patrick McCart Well-Known Member

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    The OAR war will be won when people stop stretching 1.33:1 films to fill their 1.78:1 screen. [​IMG]
     
  4. Christian Preischl

    Christian Preischl Well-Known Member

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    I just wish some studios would get the message.

    I'm a pessimist by nature but it certainly felt good reading Ebert's column today. [​IMG]

    Chris
     
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    Newest Top 10 sales chart in "Entertainment Weekly" is full of WS versions with nary a FS version in sight.

    Heartening comment overheard at Wal-Mart yesterday regarding Terminator 3, "...is that the widescreen version? Did you get the right one?" [​IMG]
     
  6. Tom Scholfield

    Tom Scholfield Well-Known Member

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    The war is not won until we can get the message across to all moviegoers and DVD buyers that OAR is the only way to watch the piece of art they are wathching it, instead of them watching a cut up version.
     
  7. Steve_Tk

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    It's winning in my area. Usually by the time I get into Walmart there are only a few WS left but a stack full of FS. And it's not that they only order FS because the few times I actually make it there on Tuesday morning they have stacks and stacks of WS.
     
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    Tom_Bechet Well-Known Member

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    It's won in Europe. but only because there are no PS/FS versions around. People only get OAR what they do later in their living room is their problem.
     
  9. ZackR

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    Yes, I think widescreen is winning out, but I am not so sure about OAR. We are now seeing movies modified to fit the 1.78:1 of a widescreen TV. I for one do NOT want my 2.35:1, etc movies being modified just to fill up my widescreen. What next? Will people demand a "widescreen" Citizen Kane because it doesn't fill up their 16x9?! Yes, I think widescreen has won the war, but we need to keep focusing on OAR!
     
  10. Jay Mitchosky

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  11. Glenn Overholt

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    No, we're not even close. Matilda shows the point. No WS version is scheduled - so the war will not be won until all movies that come out are in their OAR.

    And Matilda isn't alone. There are probably several hundred out there that all need to be done again - correctly. Don't be fooled by sales figures. They may show OAR on top, but it isn't across the board.

    The studios need to be hounded until they give in.

    Glenn
     
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    Went to BB to pick up T3 for a Friday night viewing. They must have had 150 Full Screen in the display up front, but not a single Wide Screen. I ask the sales person if they had WS anywhere else in the store. He said, "Oh, you must have one of those widescreen TVs." I said, "Nope, I just like to see the whole movie." He looked at me like I was crazy or something. Purchased Wide Screen from Wal-Mart. Hey, if they have what I want, why not?
     
  13. Joshua Clinard

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    I agree with Glenn. We are making strides, but until every movie is being released in OAR, and until full screen is no loner being sold, I will keep on hoping for that day. Let's not rest, or we will be overtaken. We still have to educate! Use Widescreen Advocate.
     
  14. WillG

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    I have been tracking the Video Business sales charts on the forum for the past few weeks on this forum. WS versions of DVDs usually come out on top, but for many titles, the WS finishes only a couple of places above the P&S. However, P&S versions tend to fall off charts much faster than WS versions in subsequent weeks

    The question I have about the "War" is this. Is WS genuinely catching on? Or is it just that there are millions of J6Ps who don't have DVD players yet?
     
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    The disturbing trend of new HD channels is to fill the 1.78:1 screen.

    Watch for new channels such as Cinemax HD and Starz HD to do this.
     
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    I'm a middle-school science teacher, and I show my 7th graders "The Andromeda Strain" every year after we finish the chapter on viruses and bacteria (usually right before Christmas break). The school just bought several new Panasonic 27" TV/VCR/DVD combos, and I was lucky enough to replace my old 25" TV/VCR (I'd hook up my own portable DVD player to this TV).

    This new Panasonic has a "zoom" feature for DVD playback, so I thought I'd test it out on "The Andromeda Strain" for a good laugh! I brought the DVD in last week to test at the end of my 8th grade classes (since they've already seen it). You should have seen their faces when I zoomed in to make the 2.35 image fill the 1.33 screen! They couldn't believe you chop off nearly 50% of the image. (I then explained how "pan & scan" tries to make up for this, but that either way you lose lots of picture.)

    Bottom line, they got the point that you should watch a movie the way it was filmed, just make sure you have a big enough TV to enjoy 2.35 films. And over the years, while students complain at the beginning of "Andromeda" that there are black bars, they very quickly focus on the film and forget about the black bars!
     
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    But now we're getting "zoomboxed" WS.

    [​IMG]

    The battle might have just ended, but we are now begining the war. -gandalf
     

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