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No more Mary Tyler Moore Show sets?

Discussion in 'DVD' started by MatthewA, Dec 3, 2002.

  1. Jack Briggs

    Jack Briggs Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe Mr. Staddon said anything about not releasing the rest (or some of the rest) of the series to DVD.
     
  2. Tony Scello

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    I believe Jack is correct. Although Mr. Staddon did indicate that sales of MTM were disappointing, he never said that there would not be any future releases of the show.
     
  3. DeeF

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    My confession:

    I own the MTM 1st Year Set (a few months ago), and I haven't opened it. There is so much other stuff to watch, and I've seen all those shows many times, so....

    Meanwhile... I bought the first 2 Twilight Zone collections, and I've watched all the episodes already (over the Thanksgiving Holiday).

    What does this say? Probably nothing, except I like Twilight Zone better.
     
  4. MatthewA

    MatthewA Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I am blowing it out of proportion, but I doubt any other classic television series will get released from Fox.
     
  5. Jack Briggs

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    Well, Matthew, you are blowing it out of proportion. Mr. Staddon mentioned a number of television programs being produced for DVD. Stay calm. No announcement to the contrary has been made.

    Last night's chat was extremely positive.
     
  6. Jack Briggs

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    Also, I might point out, it is the spread of unfounded rumors which, among other things, have cooled the studios toward participating here. Let's cool it on this topic.
     
  7. Steve Phillips

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    I would bet that the sales of the MTM sets might build over time rather than hit big right at the beginning like THE X FILES or FRIENDS. You never know what the holiday season may hold; they may sell quite a few in the next month.
    I expect we'll see at least one more season released at some point.
    On a side note, Dee, you watched over 70 episodes of THE TWILIGHT ZONE in one weekend? Wow![​IMG] That's a real marathon.
     
  8. Jeff Ulmer

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    I think publicity is also a part of it, and you are correct that review sites didn't cover it (they normally don't cover what they aren't sent). There is a lot of competition for the consumer's dollar these days, and reviews do play a part in winning people over, especially if the sets are done as well as MTM is supposed be done.

    The message was pretty clear that music rights have become a major hurdle in getting shows released, and things like WKRP may not see the light of day until such time as there is both a reasonable market for the product, and the licensing costs aren't as prohibitive as they are now.
     
  9. Adam Lenhardt

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  10. DeeF

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  11. Scott_J

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    Adam, I have the same feelings as the original poster who you quoted so I'll explain my reasoning for it (and I am of course speaking just for myself, not trying to speak for him). If I buy a TV show on DVD, I don't want just 1 season and that's it. I want to have the chance to buy the entire series. For example, I have resisted buying Sanford & Son season 1 because Columbia had not yet announced a season 2 release for any of their series, and I didn't want to spend the money on S&S unless I knew further seasons would be released. They recently announced season 2 releases for many of their shows, so I will probably pick up S&S in the near future (after the holidays). If someone is buying a TV show on DVD, why should the studio not at least give them the option of getting the entire run, even if the person chooses to stop after X number of seasons. At least give consumers the option.

    That's why I think studios should start releasing shorter-lived shows in complete series sets, rather than seasons - like what Disney did with Sports Night. They released both seasons, all 45 episodes, of the series in 1 6-disc set, which was great. More studios should try that.

    Just my .02
     
  12. David Lambert

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    This is why *I* don't have MTM yet:

    When MTM was first in stores on 9/24, my desire was to get it at Costco for $32.99 - $7 cheaper than the lowest competitor. They got about 2 dozen copies in. But I couldn't afford it right away, with other things I had just bought at the time (24, Space: 1999 megaset, Narnia 3-pack, an X-Files set I hadn't grabbed yet, etc.).

    Well, a month later, Malcom in the Middle was hitting on 10/29. I resolved to pick both it and MTM up at Costco on that date.

    But when I got there at 11-ish (on my lunchbreak), there were no copies of MTM to be found. Knowing full well that about half the original stock was still there the previous week - quite normal for my Costco, which still to this day has over 50 copies of their original SKID of The Godfather from a year ago - I was shocked that I couldn't find any copies.

    I nabbed a Malcolm, then asked one of the Mgrs to check inventory for MTM. She said she didn't have to, she knew the Fox rep had pulled it that morning and it was gone. She stated that this was normal for them, they didn't keep that merchandise around very long. That I had to move quickly if I wanted it.

    I bought Malcolm that day, and sure enough enough when Ice Age showed up the half dozen copies of MitM that were there the previous Wedsnesday had been yanked.

    So now I get to use the Fox Demo Disc #2 coupon to get it at Best Buy for $39.99 - $5 = $34.99; I get to pay the $2 "slow loser" fee if I want this. Sigh.


    My point? Well, I suppose other Fox sets sold better at Costco in a similar amount of time, but maybe slow-movers can use more time on the shelf. Maybe finding ways to trim the price back a tad will help, I dunno (I too figured more fans would pounce on this one as it was designed; I don't count myself a fan as I barely ever watched it growing up).

    Lots more rambling thoughts roaming around in my head on this subject, but I think I'll leave this for now. Discuss.
     
  13. Jefferson

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    I just read the transcript,
    and he didn't absolutely say that MTM
    would not release more season sets.
    I hope that they continue.
    This is akin to only being offered the first
    chapter of a book....
    We might not get CHUCKLES BITES THE DUST because
    MTM bit it first? YIKES.
     
  14. Jeff Ulmer

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    Scott pretty much summed up my thoughts. It is my collector's mentality, all or nothing. I like things complete.

    MTM isn't one of my favorite shows. I did enjoy it growing up, but at near $50 for one season, I can't justify it when there are other things I want a lot more, especially when the DVD budget has dwindled to near nothing.
     
  15. Adam Lenhardt

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    That's for the explanation, guys. It's not a position I personally would take by a long shot, but it's one that I can atleast understand. Thanks again.[​IMG]
     
  16. Joseph DeMartino

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  17. Ron Kaye

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    IMHO: Other studios should do what was done for :

    'Mad About You' Season 1.

    2 dvds. 24 episodes. Can find it for $20 on some sites.

    Maybe the picture quality isnt as good as it should be, but if it keep costs low, & allows future seasons to be produced, then I'm all for it!
     
  18. Jefferson

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    I picked up my MTM at Sam's Club for
    way under the list price...
    hmmmmmmmm...maybe that is why they aren't making any money
    on it...[​IMG]
     
  19. Scott_J

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    Joseph, Jefferson said it perfectly: only owning 1 season of a TV show is like owning only 1 chapter of a book. And believe me, I realize not buying a season 1 set doesn't necessarily bode well for getting future seasons released. It's being stuck between a rock and a hard place. But for shows that I really enjoy, I buy the 1st season set, even if I don't know for sure if they will release subsequent seasons. I did that with All in the Family and Larry Sanders. S&S is a show that I don't enjoy and much and so that was lower on my list to buy, so that was one I held off on on until a season 2 was announced because I wouldn't be too upset if I didn't own that one.

    And I also understand the economics involved in DVDs, that part of my last post was written more from a consumer's point of a view than from a logical standpoint, I admit.
     
  20. Joseph DeMartino

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