Hey Pat you might want to hold off on that 3805 if you would like something with hdmi and dvi. The AVR 4806 should be coming out soon. It will be replacing the AVR 4805 and retail for around $3500. The new AVR 5805 looks really nice but at $6k its kinda pricy especially since you can get a McIntosh for around $7400. But I dont think the McIntosh has the features and number of inputs the Denon does. Sorry to hear about the ES hope you get something better soon. My ES is still in the shop, its only been a week so far but the thing is it shouldn't be there in the first place. Kinda sucks when you buy the upper end Sony for the construction and good parts. And end up with a peice of junk anyway :frowning: