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More missing dialogue on Artisan's "Reservoir Dogs: Ten Years" DVD

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Bill GrandPre, May 18, 2003.

  1. Bill GrandPre

    Bill GrandPre Well-Known Member

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    I sat down and watched this DVD again last night and noticed another missing line of dialogue. Shortly after the DVD was first released, it was discovered that a line of dialogue was missing from the scene where Mr. White and Mr. Pink return to the room where Mr. Orange is bleeding to death. A line, spoken by Mr. White, is missing. The line in question is "I think he just passed out", and it's represented on the closed captioning track but is omitted from all soundtracks on the DVD. I discovered more missing dialogue last night. Right before Nice Guy Eddie, Mr. White and Mr. Pink go to get rid of their cars and pick up the bag of diamonds, Marvin Nash says "I haven't been looking" when Nice Guy Eddie says he's seen all of them. This line is also omitted, as is "shut the" in Mr. Pink's "shut the fuck up, man!". It appears as though Pink punches Marvin Nash for no good reason thanks to the omitted line. So we have two complete lines and the beginning of a third missing from the DVD. I know we've all taken our 40 whacks at Universal for the whole "Back to the Future" fiasco but at least they did something about it. Artisan will most likely never attempt to correct these errors on the "Reservoir Dogs: Ten Years" DVD.
     
  2. Vince Maskeeper

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    Let's see: Horrible transfers that are misframed, embarassing extras and multiple lines of missing dialog. It's amazing that they wouldn't WANT a second chance at making these discs right. I know if I screwed up such a great film so badly, I'd want another chance.

    It's also odd that QT seems to have no opinion or care on the matter. I would imagine that if someone could get Lawrence Bender in on the case, something might get fixed (like Bob Gale was the one who pushed the BTTF issue). I wonder if anyone has the ability to get in touch with anyone at Artisan and find out if they are aware of the multiple problems.

    Anyone have IMDBpro and have contact infor for Bender, or maybe for DP Andrzej Sekula-- I'd love to hear what Andrzej has to say on the current DVD transfer and frame.

    -V
     
  3. Bill GrandPre

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    In all fairness, QT's priorities are most likely on "Kill Bill" at the moment, understandably, but it's unfortunate that the timing of the production of his latest film coincided with such a problem-laden DVD of his first. Perhaps QT could have been more involved if Artisan had delivered the DVD earlier in the year as promised. I believe I read something on aintitcoolnews.com about Quentin being concerned about the problems on the DVD but I never heard any followup. In any case, I too would be interested in hearing what anyone involved thought of the many problems. It would be nice if one of the main contributors of the movie could get a return process going. The most promising debut film of the 90's deserves better than this.
     
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    FYI, Reservoir Dogs is not Super 35 (I know that's what it says on imdb). I read an interview in which QT said it was filmed in Panavision (i.e., anamorphic). His quote was something to the effect of "I don't care how much cropping happens for VHS, I only care about the laserdisc version (of the home video)." This, of course, makes it even stanger that it would be misframed, assuming that it wasn't one of the older versions that was misframed.

    -Reagan
     
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    RD certainly looks like it was shot Super-35. There's a lot of extra image in the fullscreen version.
     
  7. Bill GrandPre

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    I finally got a response from Artisan Entertainment about the missing dialogue. I initially sent the info to six Artisan e-mail addresses, none of which responded for weeks. I was watching the supplements of the "T2: Extreme Edition" DVD and I noticed a Manuel Casillas credited as "Artisan Head of DVD Production" or something like that. The format of the previous Artisan e-mail addresses was first initial, last name, so I figured I'd give mcasillas@artisanent.com a shot. Sure enough, it worked, and he responded:

     
  8. Matthew Brown

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    Any new news on this one?


    Matt
     
  9. James Lambert

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    The missing dialogue is unfortunate but I can't see Artisan reissuing this solely on that one issue. It is a matter of two lines which is less than the Day of the Dead/Anchor Bay affair. As for the misframing and colour issues, were these ever confirmed? I remember when the disc first came out and a number of reviewers mentioned this, but they also mention never seeing RD in the theater. When it was shown theatrically it always had a very greenish washed out look to it which I think is well represented on the disc.
     
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    Since you guys know the movie so well, probably a dumb question: do you know if there's any difference between the Mr. Blonde/Orange/White/etc. DVD's and the one with the "four colors" on the cover? I have never seen the four colors cover around here (only found out about it a few days ago) and noticed it was apparently released on a different date. Just curious...Artisan re-packaging the same old stuff at it's worst excess I guess?
     
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    The Mr. Brown/White/Orange/Yellow/Pink case was just a cardboard slip with the "four colors" cover inside it. I would imagine that they've simply stopped including the individual character slipcases.
     
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    Doh! Thanks Carl, I *suspected* it was a dumb question, and now I know for sure... Went and checked my Mr. Blonde copy...never remembered or thought about the slipcase covering it.

    What I thought was weird the other day (when checking prices to sell a copy of the previous release version) was how the different colors are all priced differently at places I checked, even the common ones. Mr. Brown is more than twice as expensive as all the other ones, though apparently easily available...that brown cardboard slipcase is worth quite a lot it seems.
     
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    I have no issue with the framing on the new Res Dogs disc, but even a J6P can see how completely out of whack the black levels are on that disc (hint: what black level?).

    -Lyle J.P.
     
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    Will they make replacement disks available?
     
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    Bill -
    Thanks for the info. I hope we don't have to jump through hoops to get a replacement Disc.


    Matt
     
  18. Bill GrandPre

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    Hopefully they'll offer a mailaway program, but if you want to be really cynical and pessimistic, you'll notice that while the responses I've recieved have mentioned correcting the problem, there has been no mention of offering an exchange program. Of course, in my original e-mail, I said something along the lines of "an exchange program would be appropriate in this case" and that was never contested, but with Artisan you never know. I would like to think that offering exchanges would go without saying but you never know. Hopefully, we won't have to buy it again just to get the corrected audio track.
     
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    And hopefully they'll exchange my copy as well, eventhough, they probably won't, as I live in Norway... [​IMG]
     
  20. Matthew Brown

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    I would doubt that an exchange would include the special cover if Artisan does do one.

    As long as I get a corrected one, I don't care. I actually have two because I couldn't decide if I wanted Mr. Blonde or Mr. Brown. I might keep one to compare the "corrected one" to.

    Matt
     

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