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Lucasfilm's Rick McCallum says DVD hurts box office returns.

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by DaveBB, Oct 17, 2002.

  1. DaveBB

    DaveBB Well-Known Member

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    Here is a link to an article from CNN.com where Rick McCallum talks about how DVDs hurt theatrical release box office returns.
    'Star Wars' producer: DVDs hurt B.O.
    What do you guys think about his comments?
     
  2. Neil Joseph

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    The interesting thing about this is that video sales are so high in fact that the sales take can often be higher than the box office gross of a movie.
     
  3. Lou Sytsma

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    Riiight. The same thing was said about videotapes.

    Last time I looked B.O. returns were higher than ever.

    The real issue is for the movie industry to make movies well enough to get the repeat business.

    And Rick here's some free advice: SFX alone does not a movie make.
     
  4. Brajesh Upadhyay

    Brajesh Upadhyay Well-Known Member

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    McCallum is probably right. But studios are making a killing with DVD sales. Yep, some movies gross more on DVD than in their theatrical release -- case in point: "The Fast and the Furious".

    In the end, studios are still reaping lots of money from theatrical showings, product shots/ads in the movie itself, DVD sales, tie-ins, pay-per-view/TV showings, DVD re-issues & the like.
     
  5. Jason_H

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    Some of my favorite quotes:
     
  6. JosephMoore

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    It is completely true that the bulk of a major studio release's profits come not from the theatrical release, but from the home video release and other ancillaries such as merchandising. At this point, for big blockbusters, the theatrical release is considered a giant advertisement for the video.

    It is a distortion, though, to imply that home video sales cannibalize box office revenue. In fact, going back to the advent of VHS, this has proven to be exactly the oppposite.

    Studios have gotten themselves into the current Blockbuster arms race. Why should anyone cry over their financial prediciament ? *They* decide whether to produce and release "Spiderman" vs "My Big fat Greek Wedding." Both grossed a lot of money, but only one cost a lot of money. You do the math.

    Concerning file swapping: The film industry has the unique opportunity to look at how the music industry fumbled the oppportunity and do it right. If the path of least resistance is also the legal path, people will follow in droves. make it simple, make it cheap and we'll have no reason to "pirate." Make it cumbersome, make it expensive, and suffer the consequences. Do you think that they will do it right ? Doubtful at best.
     
  7. Chuck Mayer

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    I agree heartily with the last two posts. Well said. McCallum is up a tree if he thinks people are going to buy that. If the studios are in a bind (and they aren't), then it's one of their own making. People will go to see good films. That's proven year-in and year-out. His comments about digital piracy sound painfully similar to the RIAA's pathetic rhetoric. I will continue to go to theaters, and I'll continue to buy DVD's because I Like them in pristine quality, with the bells and whistles. Like CD's, my cash spent might drop as their ticket prices skyrocket ($7 for a matinee - guess I will only see the sure things).

    And Rick, please do NOT use the word "moral" in an argument made to explain the possible death of the movie industry. It's a bit hypocritical. The entertainment industry will reap what they sow. If they are smart, they'll use the technology. If they are dumb, they'll fight it and lose. Because they certainly can't control it.

    Take care,
    Chuck
     
  8. Joshua Moran

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    I think if they want repeat business they need to make better movies. The entire trilogy of LOTR cost $150 million. Felleowship brought in $300 million at the B.O. So stating that the B.O. isn't making money anymore is just way out of context. Make a crappy movie like Episode 1 & 2 with tons of eye candy but no pull and look at what you get back. Heck even Spider-Man pulled in alot more money then they ever expected. Why because it was good. But I will go see an independant film any day over a hollywood blockbuster. For the mere fact 9 times out of 10 they are better. [​IMG]
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    The original plan was to film "The Hobbit" starring Warwick Davis. But when Miramax balked at the $75 million dollar price tag Peter Jackson took it to New Line which gave him nearly $300 million to make the trilogy
    Ok well even at that the 1st movie still paid for the entire trilogy. And according to imdb.com info it paid for itself in it's first week. Granted this doesn't account for marketing and so forth but still their are two more in the series coming and they are pretty much all profit at this point. I think Rick has a few screws loose.
     
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  10. Vince Maskeeper

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    The headline of this article should have been:
    "Lucasfilm's Rick McCallum Looks for excuses why Star Wars prequels don't live up to box office expectations, blames DVD."
    If you read between the lines here, Rick is basically whining that not enough people are excited about the product he is making to warrant the expense of making it. My goodness. Can you imagine me complaining because I was a rubber-dog-poo manufacturer and I made rubber-poo that cost $100 a unit? It silly for me to complain that not enough people want $100 dog poo as if it is their fault.
    That's a fact of life in the capitalistic model: you don't just create a supply and take the demand for granted (and then find fault in the consumer when there wasn't the deamand you wanted!).
    Boo-hoo, you can't make souless nonsense and throw 100 million dollars at it and just assume the world will be begging you for it.
    Yawn.
    Maybe Lucasfilm can sue the moviegoing public (like Mr. Show's COUPON: THE MOVIE).
    I think this once again screams the reality of the industry: Time is ripe for a second UNITED ARTISTS to arise and drive down filmmaking budgets making "indie" films with real distribution. I could totally see a smart studio coming along and negotiating a stronger deal with exhibitors (actually allowing them to meake a fair percentage on the films they show) and making solid films without paying $20 million to single actors. When your budget is exceeding $40 mil before a single frame of film is shot- something is terribly wrong!
    Exhibitors would carry these films because even with 1/2 the BO take, they still stand to actually make more money than they can with Blockbusters-- and the only element left is asses in seats. Time has shown that simply telling a good story takes care of that part.
    -V
     
  11. streeter

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    Anyone who knows about Rick McCallum probably knows that he's full of it.
    DVD doesn't hurt box office... bad movies do.
     
  12. Terrell

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    Why am I not surprised this turned into a prequel/Lucas bashfest.

     
  13. JosephMoore

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    To be fair, McCallum is a pretty smart guy. I haven't read the article in question, but in another instance he intimated that a THX Home Theater would probably provide the most superior viewing of Episode II.

    He's dissappointed, he's scared and he suffers from the same myopia that any "insider" would .. and being a Lucas ranch-hand is like being an insider's insider.
     
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  15. Lou Sytsma

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    McCallum comes off like a sports team owner who want the taxpayers to pay for building a stadium - while signing a .200 hitter for 20 million a year.

    The problem is not with the audience but from within the industry.

    Sure ticket prices are higher Terrell but I'm reasonably sure that more tickets are being sold as well.
     
  16. JosephMoore

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    Terrell,
    I found it curious that in one instance he bitches about home theater hurting box office receipts but in another he admits that it is probably a superior experience.

    BTW, I don't need to be his neighbor to intimate from his comments. ;-)
     
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    This fellow, along with GL, is livin' in an ivory tower. He seems to conveniently excuse the quality of the new round of SW movies as a variable in the entire formula which determines how well a movie will perform.
     
  18. Craig_T

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    “I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.”
    —Jack Valenti, president, Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), April 12, 1982.


    It's been 20 years since these brilliant words were first spoken, why aren't films dead yet?
     
  19. JosephMoore

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    Peter,
    While I'm a vocal critic of Lucas' directorial skills and misguided vision of film-making, I have to say that your rant on his "greed" is probably off-base.

    Anyone who knows anything about GL knows he does what he does out of a passion for it. I had the pleasure of meeting him one time when he happened to be getting a "back-stage" tour at Disney Animation, Orlando. He was about the nicest guy you could hope to meet.

    Sure Lucasfilms/LucasArts et. all are big businesses in a big industry, but Lucas' core development team is clearly concerned about more thanjust the almighty dollar.
     
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