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STAR TREK II THE WRATH OF KHAN (1982) original theatrical presented in DOLBY STEREO / Lucasfilm Ltd THX Sound System / JBL 49 speakers.

The colours are light-years better than the bluray with that ghastly looking tinted blue colour.

Sound Dolby Stereo mix is what I heard listened to at the cinema. The DVD and bluray have about one single sound effect missing, which is bit disappointing so, I reach for the LASERDISC for the flashback experience. The bluray Dolby TrueHD 7.1 is okay, But the SE directors cut is fine DVD, at least the colours are not looking as bad as bluray. First edition DVD is okay, but been some years since I played it.

The Laserdisc presssing has been of viewing since the dreadful shameful releases on bluray that plagued with botch jobs, The laserdisc thank goodness. I never ditched this format. :)

For those who own Pioneer Laserdisc players know the Digital parse still gives a bit of step edge to CLV laserdiscs but its still a good feature since not all films on laserdisc was CAV or some had CAV sides depending on running time,

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Khan, is satisfied he's on Laserdisc. "Excellent."

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When the U.S.S. Enterprise comes pans across the screen feels like an Earthquake in space rumble track, vibrates the seats.


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Raise Shields.

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FIRE!

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APOLLO 13 collection. By far my demo is the THX laserdisc (dts) as I like the fast dts lock-on with Onyko TH SR-875. The bluray is okay, HD-DVD is okay. DVD first edition has sound error on the nightmare scene on centre channel with top end lose kinder like 70mm mag when the tracks lose the top end and sounds dull for brief for moments. After the nightmare scene the centre restores. Not sure if this also happened on the region 1 DVD or might only be isolated to the region 2 pressing?

Picture on the laserdisc with up-scale looks marvlous.

Sound is magnificently out of this world.


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E.T. (1982) Dolby Stereo

No walkie-talkies and no 20th E.T. sound effects that are still on the original '82 box set DVD which is disappointing. So given Universal bad track record with bluray I won't touching fearing the same sound effects used on 20th Anniversary, being used on '82 original.

Its a fine CAV pressing with some extras.

Picture is fine for a laserdisc pressing in W/S.

Sound, Its a Dolby Stereo, John Williams tore-de -force musical ride escapism for just under 2 hours, that never fails to tear up. Best watched once in while so the magic of it as an impact on the emotions,
Seen this classic twice in 70mm 6-track mag Dolby Stereo at the local. It does make children cry, recall one mother with her daughter, that couldn't stop crying. didn't distract me that much when the loud John William music comes in drowns out the crying. :P

When I saw the 20th E.T. at the local UCI in Dolby SR-D it SUCKED! It sounded so quiet and impact of it was a joke, might as well be watching curved screen 4K with tiny tinny 1" speakers. It was dreadful :thumbsdown: . 70mm Dolby Stereo rules! :thumbsup:




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Next up like to buy the Signature Collection THX pressing.

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Love all the laserdisc talk ;) got my first player in 1988 with Criterion Blade Runner + 2001 CAV boxed sets + ET.
Still own a Pioneer NTSC/PAL model which auto plays both sides of the LD & kept about 100 rare boxed sets & discs (sold the rest to a legendary UK VFX guru @ Pinewood studios :D ). To import these back in the 1980-mid 90's to UK from US cost a LOT of money with customs tax, shipping etc etc

As sound on several is still superior to the BD I will keep as they are not worth much anymore & the coverart is incredible on so many sleeves :D

One thing I will bring up that a lot of people will not remember is that the studios used to chop the running time on LD's to keep disc pressing costs down. As CLV were 59 mins a side Fox for instance chopped out entire scenes from Star Wars OT P&S LD's which was a disgrace. I think that caused Lucafilm to produce future LD's in house only.

I also seem to remember some LD's had speedup on the end titles as well again to save pressing a 2nd LD to shave costs. If you compare running times they did not match at all even accounting for 23.976 FPS vs NTSC/PAL.

This was a scandal when LD's were priced as a premium niche product & another issue was so many pressings used faulty masters & or had sound faults where it cut channels out & went to mono but still they were pressed & sold as a niche product as in those days no-one wanted a recall it would sometimes mean their job so they knowingly sold a faulty product.

STMP P&S had a video master issue where the picture jumped on one of the klingon ship scenes. Sound also cut-out in several places & went to mono
Star Trek 2 P&S had the sound cutout when the enterprise leaves spacedock.
Superman The Movie had surround sound cut out several times on the P&S.

Back in the 1980's P&S LD's came out first thats all you had unless you bought the actual film print & could show that at home. It was only in the late 1980's that Widescreen LD's started to appear & even then it took a while to get many titles repressed with a widescreen version (which you had to buy again no discounts were offered). Star Wars trilogy in widescreen cost $69.99 EACH that was a lot of money back then & Fox used to charge $69.99 for their premium LD's in widescreen :eek:

Bluray blows away PQ if you have a decent display most BD's look stunning but still some titles sound better on LD to me especially the AC3/DTS discs or even the matrixed 4.0 DTS LD's like Jurassic Park, Casper (coming to BD next month).
 

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While it may not be HD I look beyond the HD I see the colour and texture is enough for me over some unworthy bluray I own How they made it to pressing in dire state staggers me.

Audio tops bluray lossless when comparing DIE HARD (1988) to DVD release that has all the sound effects in the wrong stage channel locations. After seeing how dire DIE HARD 2, is on bluray compared to DVD and the cropped framing of the scope. Who at Fox, hires these people? SpecSavers R'us?

So I won't ever take a chance on DIE HARD on bluray not wasting money when I know I have thee better version that I recall hearing listening too at the local odeon screen 2 then moved into screen 1, saw 3 times, then dozen more at late night shows at the MGM cinema down the road in screen 1 with DIE HARD 2, that I also saw at odeon screen 1 and UCI in Dolby Stereo SR.

Lucky the laserdisc pressing didn't cost as much as I paid in late 90's. Bought one sealed for less than £15.00.

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Screen capture taken off the THX laserdisc Dolby AC-3 pressing. I won't sell this again! I sold my first one years ago when I bought DVD player and made few mistakes at selling off some laserdiscs, won't make that mistake twice.

Copied few minutes to DVD-RW so I can screen capture a few scenes.

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Some visible cross-talk, on the pressing. I seen far worse on some damaged film prints, I mean worse. So I can handle a bit of cross-talk on laserdisc. Not all my pressings CLV have cross-talk. The above screen capture is the white flash when Karl, slides that hockey-puck-bomb across the floor in the shootout with the glass.

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Watching on the LCD projector last December, 2013, as its seasonal film that gets played on Christmas its replaced White Christmas, with Hans handing out the presents and MaClane, tossing them out of highrise buildings wearing a windshield. :lol:

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But Andy, that laserdisc edition is not the filmed in Panavision version, it's the bluravision version. :P :lol:
 

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Still have the first 4 Star Trek movies on laser and seeing the pics brings back great memories of the 1990's when i was collecting them and also have my favorite which are the Criterion lasers which i have 132 of them and still play them.
 

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atcolomb said:
Still have the first 4 Star Trek movies on laser and seeing the pics brings back great memories of the 1990's when i was collecting them and also have my favorite which are the Criterion lasers which i have 132 of them and still play them.
Get them out let see pictures. CC sounds like a nice collection you have there.
 

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SATURN 3 DOLBY STEREO panned and scanned

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Saw a W/S version on youtube but it was only in MONO.

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Bought the DVD cheaply but its only in MONO.

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RUNAWAY not a bad going PAL pressing and DOLBY STEREO is nice.

Paid £.1.99 brand new and still sealed.

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"Bug detected" :P

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A buddy in the Sates sent THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and STAR WARS CBS/FOX pressings last year.

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Also took a few direct captures rather than using the camera to take captures off the CRT. I've cropped off the black boarders.

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Compering with over scan loss on the CRT

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TOS STAR TREK on laserdisc wow these pressings are nice. No EE that I can see and the colour not bad at all and original MONO mix.

The Dagger of the Mind / The Corbomite Maneuver

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Trailer to next weeks show.

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Fascinating.

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Using the projector

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STAR TREK GENERATIONS, THX laserdisc Dolby Stereo Digital AC-3. Marvelous transfer.

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Captain Picard needs Memory. :P

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Executive Decision laserdisdc Dolby Stereo Digital AC-3 cracking listening fun with the F-117 stealth airplane docking with the 747.

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I guess its slog, cos you don't have Laserdisc High Speed. :P It loads up fast here. And I'm using thee slowest cheapest provider. They even offered me a higher speed but I find the one I'm works for watching NASA TV and that is high tech stuff as you.
 

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andySu said:
I guess its slog, cos you don't have Laserdisc High Speed. :P It loads up fast here. And I'm using thee slowest cheapest provider. They even offered me a higher speed but I find the one I'm works for watching NASA TV and that is high tech stuff as you.
It's fine when you have it in the cache, it loads good the second time you look at the page but first time is a slog.

Here's a link to my test.

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