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Is "not to worry..." now the new "one more thing..."?

If there's a CTO Blu Ray option on the upcoming Mac Pro refresh that would 100% cement my purchase.
 

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My speculation: silent upgrade on laptops this Tuesday. iPad madness has passed, with devices released and major reviews out and read over the weekend. New laptops can now come out without interfering with the iPad build-up.
 

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Marco Arment's guide to saying FU Apple, I'm not going to wait on your dumb asses to support this officially:
http://www.marco.org/491133723

3 separate tools needed to make it work but it can be done.

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Optical media is excellent for long-term archival storage, ....
Since when? Everything I've read about writeable CDs is they may last ten years, or last one year. You don't know until you try it and then it may be too late. Has Blu Ray been longevity tested? This seems like a very optimistic view for long-term archiving.
 

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Interesting. But Kodak left the CD business about a decade ago. (As a former Kodak employee, I saw a presentation where it was noted that, realizing that spindles of CDs where cheaper table legs than wood for street vendors, it was time to exit the market.) Did they re-enter it for Blu Ray?
 

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Not that I know of but doing a simple google search it looks like Delkin is going one step further:
http://www.delkin.com/products/archivalgold/archival-blue-ray-delkin.html
 

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Obviously this is what Apple has been waiting for, plus it will meet my needs for archival media purposes.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/128gb-bdxl-blu-ray-disc-specification-finalized-and-fabulous/



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We all knew Blu-ray probably was not going to come

to Blu-ray.


If Jobbs had wanted it, it would have been done long

ago.
 

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I don't know that that's true. It seems that the rumors that they really were going to put it in the 27" iMac as BTO were true but once again the licensing fees turned out to be the culprit given the number they thought they would sell at that point in Bluray's life cycle. Which matches up with everything Steve has said, publicly and via leaked emails.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/12/blu_ray_chairman_disagrees_with_apple_chiefs_assessment_of_format.html


I still say they need to put it in the 'pro' lines before the consumer lines, but even that remains in doubt. Not holding my breath.
 

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That's because they do not have to deal with disk creation licenses, and Apple would if they put anything besides a read only drive in.

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/videoencodvd/revfeat/bluray_blues/


http://www.betanews.com/article/Unified-Bluray-licensing-is-remedy-to-bag-of-hurt/1235601079


http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/lj_blu-ray_dvd_costs_competition.html


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I have a 2007 iMac (24") and a 2010 MBP (15"). I wouldn't often watch Blu-ray movies on a computer, but I would love to be able to do that if I wanted to, like maybe when traveling. And I'd like to be able to put in a BD and get some screen grabs on occasion for discussion purposes. For my use, a read-only drive (which can't cost much as pointed out above) would be sufficient.


I love Apple computers, but in my opinion this is an area where they have a huge black eye. I absolutely don't buy Jobs line about downloading being the big thing. For those who don't care about the best quality, and don't mind paying big money to Apple, and don't mind the extremely limited selection, sure. But for classic movie lovers, no.
 

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Posten

Obviously this is what Apple has been waiting for, plus it will meet my needs for archival media purposes.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/128gb-bdxl-blu-ray-disc-specification-finalized-and-fabulous/

100GB disks are now available at retail.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/sharp-intros-first-100gb-bdxl-discs-japan-gets-first-dibs-on-ju/
 

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I'm really at a crossroads here. I will be in the market for a new PC some time soon, specifically to support my music creation and photography hobbies. Increasingly the tools I use most are cross platform, like Pro tools, one license to use both Mac and PC, and the Adobe CS, which unfortunately you have to choose Windows or Mac versions. I have used Logic Pro as well, which is a Mac only program, as well as the iLife suite, but the power programs I use are cross-platform.


Apple's stance vs. BD really is starting to sway my purchase considerations. I can understand not putting it on notebooks because unless you buy the 17" MBP, you can't use the full 1920x1080 res anyway (my MBP is 1440x900). But at the iMac/Mac Pro level, not only would I be able to use the full resolution, but it's very likely I'd want to watch BD on my desktop. I have held out hope for nearly 12 months now but by this fall I will really be looking at whether I buy an iMac/Pro or build a new Windows machine. I love OSX and would prefer to stay there, but this avoidance of Blu is really confounding to me...I may end up voting with my dollars to register my displeasure.
 

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